From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 17 21:23:03 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F1A3BCBE6 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:23:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BVn866Kf7z4J0p for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:23:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [188.174.49.142] (helo=fritz.box) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7map-00065z-Li for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 23:22:59 +0200 Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:23:01 +0000 From: Matthias Apitz To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recognizing Matrix as an official channel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In-Reply-To: References: <0220573d-7844-4c0f-9cff-56c2a6f91500@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: <2lg17p.qf88qe.1hgf02e-qmf@ms-10.1blu.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 188.174.49.142 ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1597699383; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=1DlPs/tAQhZdD81Q289zsAzp1u2XfhavcbdwNYi7jrk=; b=YaHH+Atz7apYaz2UyLMkOL8Wpke9HkY3cwxbG6Aq3OiJ/P/FDzOd7i+O7q8iyMOKYe7CEG 6SCYdYgPmAbWExPRPHbrx5dVvkkgIvmPvxPZK7kIxeLaXatbG2sg9Yv4mP3Kh6ZiFcwzLV BV0JdOmqN5zk6VKQGtF3BivaC4YWbkzJXKdxPaV0stjo8Zu4gtTcab3VCdZoWmu5QpYl3G zW1vFdGDAs0QMAc0m/Ke5qnxG/bBIUIeuRJudHVcjgemxQmNEXoKnpSrGMjqfHSzpYv86s t4YEGENtiRiUU3LTYEZoLe9O584oEQbhkIUfiHFhALmp76YJOuRBB5zUO1hxTg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1597699383; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=SvZ9ZECVmyVZlrvCxSZ9DvS3UbD/Sw0bWoXRgXie8S4/GVuvm03nh/E+qp5hlGF0CZ0vQ+ WeY+LBgvH8ik5DFd53YiJOHqeECJnK2kh0c+JPuhQcpwketsqz/6XN1ffARdloAuEjIB95 28bNIGMz8dQWlxK8fbYFMnGRKJObT0CxVzFHrYel6xPbCjabF7s60KYN8JV7uaH7Srj4tr 3SJrOB3fI7cyTbx73HzyxCJ4dvM6rToXbcIamf8zChF8IIejuRb2ZrzwEShqM2pqkWf7JH qPhpcBKWnHrcOC6MttkXygA+jwaT4GlRJDd6xUUlABFoiYj2JnA0UkB2BFkThQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of guru@unixarea.de has no SPF policy when checking 178.254.4.101) smtp.mailfrom=guru@unixarea.de X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BVn866Kf7z4J0p X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of guru@unixarea.de has no SPF policy when checking 178.254.4.101) smtp.mailfrom=guru@unixarea.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.83 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; HAS_XOIP(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_GOOD(0.00)[178.254.4.101:from]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.99)[0.991]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; ARC_SIGNED(0.00)[i=1]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[188.174.49.142:received]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[unixarea.de]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.01)[1.006]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.03)[1.032]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:42730, ipnet:178.254.0.0/19, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[178.254.4.101:from] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 21:23:04 -0000 On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 03:20:45 +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 17.08.2020 21:36, Farhan Khan wrote: > >> I apologize for double-posting, it appears my phone's email >> client removed the spacing. Resending from the web-client. >> >> ----- >> Hi, >> >> I am a long-time IRC user. I see that FreeBSD recognizes the >> EFnet and FreeNode channels as official, as listed here: >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/IRC/Channels. While it continues to >> serve the community, there are major limitations and I feel >> that it might be time to migrate towards a replacement. >> >> The "market" of communication going forward is clearly >> shifting towards more feature-ful protocols, such as Slack, >> Discord or Gitter. The only open-source and viable option in >> this class systems that I see Matrix. There is an active >> FreeBSD channel located at #FreeBSD:matrix.org, along with a >> few other BSD-related channels. >> >> I propose making this an officially recognized channel for >> FreeBSD communication and encouraging migration from IRC to >> Matrix. > > What is Matrix's level of support for FreeBSD? > Is there native FreeBSD client? > Is there native FreeBSD server? > Why we would need this at all? Aren't mailing lists with archives not good= enough, or even better? matthias (FreeBSD since 2.2.7) -- Sent using Dekko from my Ubuntu device