From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 16 11:48:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7142106566B for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8617F8FC1F for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:48:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 8so1515703yxb.13 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:48:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=lYZYdBU3joRnIN4F/4Vel2S1vtA3t90cVkf9BqxI/ys=; b=EI/QgBSAHPCSiCMhzqXkQ9qKN4RqzVPPWgc+k5pBlBPwwWgOsjiilGb5/aDhLGhJ40 ZRGun1ZJ4Ljj+4u/A67J4W37Q2Mg2XcpeB8GYwwpdvk8TPt90blzGSJUfuLO4MhpDW89 P3GJCucWFhyJVffBobXXgY4JvavcAH8VQSzGw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=hFV4i8igd6XDw35fTaz7MD4CMEc/9W0jukbdFblC4DLrUcrQOP7KHgpdhv/IlWw13z aXYVGCKLiuADFPbEV9l5uXYb14vuk4YoI7q23xQrwAnGdEcnVoysvGWVZ9d8l2ovUDVQ lG+gTPO7LCuBlKkLDr4wPWTs6Qpx0SYKeC3XE= Received: by 10.103.247.14 with SMTP id z14mr802100mur.39.1216208883849; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.214.9 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:48:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <436c7eda0807160448g477cbbd8i26423e70a9294f19@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:48:03 +0200 From: "Jonas Lund" To: developer@grinz.com In-Reply-To: <487D07AC.4030205@grinz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <487D07AC.4030205@grinz.com> Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommendations for multi-user X11 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:48:05 -0000 > I'm setting up a colocated server (not yet procured) as a remote X11 > environment for 10 business users with broadband Internet access. > It will be their primary work computer, offering a full suite of > applications. Graphics-wise, they are not playing video games or watching > movies but will want to view the occasional YouTube clip. > > What are the graphics requirements of X11 in a low-video, multi-user > environment? > What do you recommend for hardware? This sounds quite backwards. First the server would get video from youtube that's compressed at something like 20-50x and then decode that on the server to send almost raw video over the remote X session? I seriously doubt anybody with a even a home broadband access would enjoy that video. And to what point? Unless you're giving them personal dummy terminals they are going to access the remote X desktop from a normal PC. and that normal pc should itself be able to play the videos. Now cheaping yourself out on ram sounds quite foolish. All the cpu power in the world won't help you if it's not spent because the machine is swapping. And besides, it's not THAT expensive. I don't know exactly what type of apps your people are using but i guess the main point of a setup like this is to keep the company documents,etc on the machine. So at an minimum they might be running some mail and openoffice client? So a few hundred megs of ram for each client would be a minium, prolly half a gig or so to be on the safe side for the future (This only counts in the office app + some tiny mail client, adjust for other scenarios and test!). / Jonas