From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 14 17:40:38 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332A716A4CE for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (cain.gsoft.com.au [203.31.81.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0460B43D5A for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:40:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from inchoate.gsoft.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i3F0eVQ9037301; Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:10:32 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:10:30 +0930 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.1 References: <12586.63.109.229.22.1081967765.squirrel@webmail.alienwebshop.com> <20040414235920.GC29612@grover.logicsquad.net> In-Reply-To: <20040414235920.GC29612@grover.logicsquad.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200404151010.30144.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-Spam-Score: -4.4 () CARRIAGE_RETURNS,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_KMAIL X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.16 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: Peter Leftwich Subject: Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 00:40:38 -0000 On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 09:29, Paul A. Hoadley wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:36:05AM -0700, Peter Leftwich wrote: > > I thought I would post this as something of a warning. Using > > FreeBSD as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing. Here is a > > partial list of sacrifices, as compared to Microsoft Windows XP: Perhaps you should list model numbers, because (as I listed below) there are plenty of counter examples > > * webcam ball Never had one, though support is around for a few chipsets. > > * flatbed scanner HP ScanJet 5200C (USB). > > * color printer Epson 880, HP Deskjet 540, Canon BJ230.. > > * digital cameras Kodak DC240, several of umass compliant cameras, or try gphoto2. > > * firewire devices I have tried an IPod and several types of HD enclosure which work fine. Havne't tried a video camera but I would expect it to work. > > * several USB 1 and 2 devices Flash card reader, mouse, keyboard, scanner, printer. (Although USB2 hub support doesn't exist yet) > > * IM software features such as voice and video chat Hmm, well I haven't had any experience with that, but TeamSpeak works pretty well for voice chat in games. > > * websites that use ActiveX (Windows) controls Hehe.. ahem.. Crossover Office perhaps? > > * MP3 devices Like what? > * Having to re-boot the machine every time I install a driver or apply > an update patch This (in my experience) is not an issue with XP/2000. -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 9A8C 569F 685A D928 5140 AE4B 319B 41F4 5D17 FDD5