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Date:      Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:25:43 +1100 (EDT)
From:      Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>
To:        cmott@srv.net (Charles Mott)
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ipdivert & masqd
Message-ID:  <199701292125.NAA22302@freefall.freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.91.970129134431.969D-100000@darkstar> from "Charles Mott" at Jan 29, 97 01:58:28 pm

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In some mail from Charles Mott, sie said:
> 
> > But anything after the 512th data byte in the TCP payload will be ignored,
> > so if your message is 512 bytes long, contains a DCC request in it,
> > information will be lost that the sender is not aware about (this assumes
> > the packet is just one IRC message) if the payload size must increase as
> > a result.
> > 
> > It is a *much* better idea to redirect IRC to a local TCP port and process
> > it using a proxy agent.  Same could also be said for FTP.
> > 
> > Darren
> 
> Darren,
> 
> In theory, one can construct cases where the FTP logic in the packet
> aliasing software won't work (IP fragmenting a PORT command, or where the
> PORT command is split between TCP packets with different sequence numbers,
> or where the PORT command is in the middle of a packet, and so forth). 
> 
> In practice, these situations are not seen, and the packet aliasing
> software works for FTP.  The system loading is very low, and the software
> easily scales to situations where there are large numbers of users. 
> 
> I don't know about IRC, but my guess is that the real situation is simpler
> than the theoretical.  Whatever Linux does to handle IRC, I am told that
> it looks fairly similar to what one does for FTP. 

Well, in practice, the TIS FWTK/Gauntlet was sending the FTP PORT command
in two packets, so that Linux would break and so too did Firewall-1.

Darren



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