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Date:      Sun, 9 Sep 2001 15:03:22 -0400
From:      "Deepak Jain" <deepak@ai.net>
To:        "Gabriel Ambuehl" <gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch>, "Giorgos Verigakis" <verigak@algol.vtrip-ltd.com>
Cc:        "Kris Kennaway" <kris@obsecurity.org>, "D J Hawkey Jr" <hawkeyd@visi.com>, "Alexander Langer" <alex@big.endian.de>, <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Re[2]: Kernel-loadable Root Kits
Message-ID:  <GPEOJKGHAMKFIOMAGMDIGEKMFHAA.deepak@ai.net>
In-Reply-To: <151193622478.20010909151642@buz.ch>

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Exactly! The old security adage comes to mind -- the more useful a system
is, by definition, the less secure it is.

The most secure server in the world is one that is unplugged from everything
and locked in a closet somewhere.

Deepak Jain
AiNET

-----Original Message-----
From: Gabriel Ambuehl [mailto:gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch]
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Giorgos Verigakis
Cc: Deepak Jain; Kris Kennaway; D J Hawkey Jr; Alexander Langer;
freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re[2]: Kernel-loadable Root Kits


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Hello Giorgos,

Sunday, September 09, 2001, 10:07:32 AM, you wrote:
>> This user could easily edit the rc.conf file to boot up in
>> securelevel=-1 and reboot the machine -- as well as circumvent
>> most notifications about the reboot.
> Yes, but then you can chflag schg rc.conf rc ... (or maybe the
> whole /etc)

Would you care to point out how I could lower the securelevel then
for legitimate use (i.e. updates or changes to /etc) of the system by
the administrators?



Best regards,
 Gabriel

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