From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 31 14:43:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510344DF for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gmx@ross.cx) Received: from www81.your-server.de (www81.your-server.de [213.133.104.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 166F8F31 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [188.108.248.47] (helo=michael-think) by www81.your-server.de with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.74) (envelope-from ) id 1UMJTn-0006jE-UG; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:43:32 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15; format=flowed; delsp=yes To: Joe , Polytropon Subject: Re: use of the kernel and licensing References: <20130331001209.GA69583@neutralgood.org> <51583C91.5060000@a1poweruser.com> <20130331163143.aabedff2.freebsd@edvax.de> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:43:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Michael Ross" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20130331163143.aabedff2.freebsd@edvax.de> User-Agent: Opera Mail/12.14 (Win32) X-Authenticated-Sender: gmx@ross.cx X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.6/16933/Sun Mar 31 12:39:42 2013) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 14:43:39 -0000 On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 16:31:43 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:39:29 -0400, Joe wrote: >> Does one have to file legal paper work with the government to be issued >> a copyright on software? > > With _which_ government? :-) > > Basic understanding of copyright is: The stuff _you_ write > happens "automatically" under _your_ copyright, because you > are the creator. There is nothing you need to do to achieve > the copyright - it's yours by acting. At the moment you > write something like "(C) Joe Sixpack 2012" it's "set in > stone". > > There might be other ways to prove (!) copyright, e. g. when > one of your files appears in someone else's work, but now > with the originator line saying "(C) Nick Nosewhite 2013". > In case of a court trial which involves copyright, you can > prove from your CVS "log of creation" (or whatever source > management system or even file system you use) that _you_ > have been writing that code, nobody else. > > > >> Does any software not having a copyright statement or any license >> comments included in the source mean that it's public domain? > > I would assume this. Imagine a snippet of code with no author > mentioned in it (or in the source it comes from, or any file > it is accompanied by), how would you be able to conclude > something _else_ than this is public domain with _no_ > copyright holder? I think you are wrong here. quoting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain_software: "Under the Berne Convention, which most countries have signed, an author automatically obtains the exclusive copyright to anything they have written, and local law may similarly grant copyright, patent, or trademark rights by default. The Berne Convention also covers programs. Therefore, a program is automatically subject to a copyright, and if it is to be placed in the public domain, the author must explicitly disclaim the copyright and other rights on it in some way." Note the wording "explicitly disclaim". While German law has something like a "triviality threshold" which may well apply to very small code snippets, i'd say "no included license" by default means "all rights reserved". Regards, Michael