From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 5 18:52:03 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB0816A417 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:52:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samira.nox@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.181]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9879A13C4AC for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2007 18:51:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samira.nox@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so2204284waf for ; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:51:45 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:to:subject:from:organization:cc:content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=dgSFYxU7odFYLBLpSMBKqomASGc+Zr0Ug3Z8bvJCMzc=; b=HHd6LLB1w9xm5OxVbhFPlRkVBiluKSBduas7foOpdTWy9+k7HwOebMW1h6JpKMmBQx+KZSbFe1rW1Jc1jsA55rmPuv3lnEgJbmB5xrO6EjhRT+eUe9MS4A9j7CrX+yOfRfooA2WosQIhjVRM764NJdt8fuH+u2nEr0fNzfo7fz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:date:to:subject:from:organization:cc:content-type:mime-version:references:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=C8KEtyAS9bAFrArk70sLF+YXdWVJBHKojWuhki7Wcbjmhi4wtTJ8Ej4Jgeu7LOMfm683hX0gsd5FJ61tdXlj4xXv0wzZgyYyo/FymX64tLDsuzpR9yEflq/YCJ7kSjRmfrPdfGkVL5JxONTIjx3AcEMNqbLryKPQsyDV+gFQ6ZI= Received: by 10.115.108.1 with SMTP id k1mr5442932wam.1194288705363; Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:51:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost ( [85.3.206.102]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c5sm1156418nfi.2007.11.05.10.51.41 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 05 Nov 2007 10:51:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:51:39 +0100 To: d@delphij.net, "Aryeh M. Friedman" From: sam Organization: - Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=utf-8 MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <472D56A1.7070206@gmail.com> <200711041119.45971.jrh29@alumni.cwru.edu> <472DD231.9030501@gmail.com> <472E67CC.9040201@delphij.net> <472E4FF0.3080801@gmail.com> <472EB211.7050001@delphij.net> <472EEADF.1000008@gmail.com> <472F466E.8050405@delphij.net> <472F5846.1020304@gmail.com> <472F5D9A.9050900@delphij.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <472F5D9A.9050900@delphij.net> User-Agent: Opera Mail/9.50 (FreeBSD) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Justin Hibbits Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Wiki for discussing P35/IHC9(R)/SATA issues set up X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:52:03 -0000 Please let me know which files you need. sam On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 19:14:50 +0100, Xin LI wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Aryeh M. Friedman wrote: >> LI Xin wrote: > [...] >>>>> >>>> The default behaviour should be fixed if it is so easy then. >>>> >>> How come the number is so important for you? What do you think if y= ou >>> have to drop into single user mode and adjust fstab manually and the= = >>> box >>> is several thousands of miles away from you after a simple 'make >>> kernel'? I think changing this behavior is a big POLA and not the = >>> right >>> thing to do. >> >> It prevents certain automated config issues that may or may not be >> issues as stuff moves more mass market... I know FreeBSD unlike Linux= >> has no aim to be a non-techinical enduser OS but I find my self >> increasingly recommended it as the prefered UNIX desktop enviroment >> because so stability and the general ease of using the ports/pkg syst= em >> compared to RPM's... sad to say many of the end-user oriented tools >> occasionally make naive but critical assumptions about how a machine = is >> layed out. > > Which tool? This is apparently a bug of the tool, because the tool > won't work on Solaris either. > >>>>> - Wrong SATA type/speed reported >>>>> More information is needed if you really want to have this problem= >>>>> resolved, like atacontrol output, etc. >>>>> >>>> See the SATA ihc9 and previous threads if you really need to know a= ll >>>> the messy details but the bottom line is I have been told by severa= l = >>>> of >>>> the ATA developers that since they do not have IHC9 machines P35/IH= C9 >>>> owners where on their own (and thus the need for informal group the= = >>>> wiki >>>> is aimed at) >>>> >>> Please provide links on the wiki if you really want it to be useful.= >>> >> I am at the end of a long day so I will dig the links up and post the= m >> tommorow (and send you copies) >> >>> I think the only ich9 issue I am aware of so far is that a specific >>> model of it is not recognized. This is fixed in HEAD and RELENG_7. >> >> If you don't have an ICH machine I invite you to get one and verify t= he >> issues ;-) > > Mine has no problem, and I can not afford to buy a new piece of hardwa= re > right now. > >>>> 2. The answer to the type/speed type issue from the commuhity is th= e >>>> same one I got here >>>> >>> Is the problem still exist for latest RELENG_7 and RELENG_6? Who ca= n >>> provide some basic testing for a new snapshot? >>> >> >> I csup my version of -CURRENT every day (do a buildkernel anytime the= re >> are more then 10 commulative changes): >> >> FreeBSD monster 8.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 8.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Nov 3 21:33:= 49 >> EDT 2007 aryeh@monster:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MONSTER amd64 >> >> and do a build world about once a week plus a ground up rebuild of al= l >> ports twice a month... in other words I am as current as anyone and t= he >> issues still persist. > > PCI ID and dmesg? > >>> No, it does not help if that's just "it panics", "foo is not support= ed" >>> if no detailed information is provided and we don't have our hands o= n >>> the actual hardware. >> >> I have submitted the complete verbose dmesg, pciutil -l and everythin= g >> to several people and all of them have come to the conclusion that th= ere >> is no obvious smoking gone beyond ("it just doesn't work")... Thus t= he >> comment of ICH9 owners are on their own... Next time I reboot I will >> send you a copy if you really want it. > > Yes, please. These information is very important for knowing how to > change the situation, thanks. > > Cheers, > - -- > Xin LI http://www.delphij.net/ > FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (FreeBSD) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFHL12ahcUczkLqiksRAieBAJ0Ut4zyLxTzQD3O6xlcKI+8forcMgCgxrCM > 6aqCOI+3FikoTFFG54GFzOQ=3D > =3D1uQ2 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = > "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- = Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/