From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 2 11:11:03 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3EF16A4CE for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:11:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB84743D41 for ; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:10:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02 ([157.226.230.209]:1750 helo=mvaexch02.acuson.com) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1AnjRz-0003wm-4M; Mon, 02 Feb 2004 11:09:39 -0800 Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:02:01 -0800 Received: from Siemens.com (dhcp-46-107.acuson.com [157.226.46.107]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2657.72) id VDN3LRHF; Mon, 2 Feb 2004 11:00:40 -0800 From: Johnson David To: Ray Bagby Message-ID: <401E9FEA.8040501@Siemens.com> Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 11:07:22 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200401302006.51698.glyfx3d@shaw.ca> <401B91EB.8010100@countrypure.net> <001201c3e803$d2145680$0200a8c0@sbcgolbal.net> In-Reply-To: <001201c3e803$d2145680$0200a8c0@sbcgolbal.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Scanner: exiscan for exim4 (http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/) *1AnjRz-0003wm-4M*1v9dqlaHbjg* cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: One of your employees are very rude. X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 19:11:03 -0000 Ray Bagby wrote: > Y'know, I understand the IRC individual is not an official > representative of FreeBSD, BUT, he is using the FreeBSD name and > pissing people off. Is this just something that has to be tolerated? It is unfortunate, but there is nothing to do but tolerate it. "FreeBSD" doesn't have the legal authority to dump people off of other private forums. Just using the name "FreeBSD" isn't good enough. But what if it were? What if Microsoft had the authority to kick you off of Slashdot because you said "Windows sux"? > Is there no recourse for this type of situation? There are several recourses. Complain to the moderator/administrator of the forum. Stop going to that channel. Grow a thicker skin. To put it another way, if you walk into a seedy bar, expect to encounter some drunk spoiling for a fight. Likewise, if you enter any IRC channel, expect to find obnoxious people. It's the nature of IRC. I've been on forums of various kinds for over twenty years. There have always been rude and impolite people spoiling the conversations. The difference now is that the huge influx of users since the "discovery" of the internet has increased the numbers of boorish folks. David