From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 20 18:33:18 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09ED616A41F for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:33:18 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from mail.ntplx.net (mail.ntplx.net [204.213.176.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A37D743D46 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:33:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deischen@freebsd.org) Received: from sea.ntplx.net (sea.ntplx.net [204.213.176.11]) by mail.ntplx.net (8.13.4/8.13.4/NETPLEX) with ESMTP id j8KIXGq0009130; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 14:33:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 14:33:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Eischen X-X-Sender: eischen@sea.ntplx.net To: Scott Long In-Reply-To: <43305286.4070608@samsco.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS and Clam AntiVirus (mail.ntplx.net) Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: Threading/KSE problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Daniel Eischen List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:33:18 -0000 On Tue, 20 Sep 2005, Scott Long wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > > Its why we're not supposed to bump library versions unless it is > > absolutely vitally necessary. > > > > The problem in this case seems to be that you've got two different > > instances of libpthread.so.X in your application space at once, and > > that's always going to screw you. > > > > I think we haven't heard the last of the pain that this ill-advised bump > > is going to cause. > > > > Patches for symbol versioning are readily accepted. I vaguely recall > asking for a solution for this a year ago and getting ignored. Sure, symbol versioning would be great to have, but I still don't know why library versions are bumped when they don't need to be. It's like we've thrown up our hands and said "Something has changed in one or more of the libraries, and we don't know how this affects other libraries, so we're going to bump them all." Speaking for the thread libraries, they were not users of any of the changed ABIs -- there was no reason to bump them. -- DE