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Date:      Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:39:12 +0100
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        Robert Blacquiere <freebsd@guldan.demon.nl>
Cc:        small@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: "nanobsd" prototype 
Message-ID:  <52729.1079033952@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 11 Mar 2004 20:37:07 %2B0100." <20040311193707.GX52357@bombur.guldan.demon.nl> 

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In message <20040311193707.GX52357@bombur.guldan.demon.nl>, Robert Blacquiere w
rites:
>On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 02:32:18PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
>> In message <20040310145133.GU52357@bombur.guldan.demon.nl>, Robert Blacquiere w
>> rites:
>> >
>> >Just a thought, i did not read the full patch, what "base" 
>> >apps/progs are installed? If i look at something like opensoekris,
>> >flashbsd or picobsd it looks in a file which apps are wanted, and 
>> >then searches the libs to go with it. I don't know yet how big this 
>> >nanobsd will be. But if we use something like or picobsd like crunch 
>> >conf to select the programms we need, and only install these.  
>> 
>> nanobsd contains nothing but a cut down FreeBSD distribution, anything
>> you want in addition to that you must put on there yourself.
>> 
>> The makefile contains a target called Customize where you can do that
>> sort of stuff.
>> 
>> The point of nanobsd is simply to create a tool for putting FreeBSD
>> on small media for embedded computers.
>
>Yes i know, but i was thinking of shrinking it more. Just install what is 
>needed. things like dd, pax, mount_(obscurefs and unneededfs) etc just to
>name a few which i don't need on my machine 32 mb flash card. But i know 
>it should be configurable enough and have a base to work from. 
>Is there a list of progs which get installed with libs etc?  
>
>I have seen the make.conf with mostly everything NO_${SOMETHING}=yes 
>But i think this methode is reverse of what i want. I make a list of
>programs i need sh, ifconfig, wicontrol, mount etc for my "appliance".
>And have a script which lists all libs needed. This way i think i have 
>trimmed down FreeBSD to a bare minimum for my system. 

I want nanobsd to use the normal build/installworld targets, but feel
free to prune your system in the Customize target.

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