From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 16:54:21 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E09816A41F for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 16:54:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBED43D64 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 16:54:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jB5GsG5q087990; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:54:17 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <439470B3.9080305@daleco.biz> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:54:11 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051026 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob References: <20051205073251.2a80b45f.europa100@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <20051205073251.2a80b45f.europa100@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd Subject: Re: spontaneous reboots X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:54:21 -0000 Rob wrote: >Hi, > >I am experiencing occasionally spontaneous reboots. They >seem to occur when I am using Xorg and Mozilla. However, the >last time it happened I exited Mozilla, started Gnumeric, then >when I tried to exit Gnumeric Xorg locked up and the machine rebooted. > >I couldn't find any messages in the logs relating to this. >I have noticed, however, that Mozilla creates zombie processes. >Even in Windows I have that problem with Mozilla. Maybe I need >to find another WWW browser, but some of the others are based on Mozilla. > >How should I go about debugging the problem? > > Umm, "very carefully"? ;-) Just a few thoughts: 1. Try running Mozilla from a terminal, so that output can be viewed/reviewed when it crashes. Better yet, capture the output with script(1) or creative use of shell redirection, etc. 2. How's your swap space? 3. You assert there's "nothing in the logs" --- not that I'm calling your dumb, but are you sure? What about the X server logs? (I only ask because, on occasion I've mailed the list saying "I checked the logs" and all I really meant was "I checked /var/log/messages..." 4. Can you cause a crash by running some (other) heavy load ... for example, buildworld ? Overheating components, though rare (perhaps), often are responsible, as you may well already be aware. Sorry for my "grasping at straws". Good luck! Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. -- Apathy Club meeting this Friday. If you want to come, you're not invited.