From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 13:31:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05AB106564A; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:31:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f54.google.com (mail-pz0-f54.google.com [209.85.210.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F028FC0C; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dadi14 with SMTP id i14so437306dad.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 05:31:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=DQeXEhqkMLhU+z6o8nZcDZrHW1eKDwvSlwhNOScjJOU=; b=CMTMUoyd2NHqDypwl+MPq9OyQJ+BBn/zycUVEaMWmSGExaKVGr4H+M/eCfCNEnIyF4 fqBenA/CIeOXJPGWOq3iX43KiwMSQOZMDRqfeN/ECGEoAch673OcLA4Dai6Q85qtU8qa jMaLuV+DjOhi5Zk4D8UEQ+WnUd8knXNytEEDc= Received: by 10.68.212.73 with SMTP id ni9mr43961735pbc.82.1326893510147; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 05:31:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: mozolevsky@gmail.com Received: by 10.68.28.199 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 05:31:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F15C44F.1030208@freebsd.org> <1326836797.1669.234.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <4F16019F.2060300@FreeBSD.org> <1326843399.1669.249.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <4F160B99.1060001@FreeBSD.org> From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:31:09 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: iLGupOWgXx8SLUkSV9Z7IQasGmM Message-ID: To: Eitan Adler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Ian Lepore , Andriy Gapon , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:31:50 -0000 On 18 January 2012 13:11, Eitan Adler wrote: > On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:41 PM, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: >> One way to >> "encourage" people to fix their code would be to prevent them from >> committing to -CURRENT once they pass a certain threshold of >> "unattended" patches. Of course then, committers will be whinging that >> they'd be resigning if they can't commit to -CURRENT, but quite >> frankly, why should anyone have the commit privilege if they can't be >> bothered to address the bugs, are those people just using the FreeBSD >> project to boost their CV (with great powers comes great >> responsibility!)? > > Wouldn't this discourage even more people from helping? Would this not separate people who have a genuine interest in contributing from "tinker-monkeys"? -- Igor M. :-)