From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 21 22:11:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Delivered-To: cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72B916A43A; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:11:19 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E974643D53; Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:10:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp-vbr5.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6LM9vFx012923; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:09:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6LM9vds012865; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:09:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: (from wb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j6LM8ume012851; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:08:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wb) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:08:56 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20050721220856.GA12836@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200507201959.j6KJxkJl000803@repoman.freebsd.org> <86hdenx5mg.fsf@xps.des.no> <20050721203934.GC1097@anarion> <200507211726.14034.jhb@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200507211726.14034.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-OS: FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, Marcel Moolenaar , "Liam J. Foy" , Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav , Peter Grehan Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/tools/tools/tinderbox/etc current.rc head.rc update_current.rc update_head.rc X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:11:20 -0000 On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 05:26:11PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote.. > On Thursday 21 July 2005 04:39 pm, Liam J. Foy wrote: > > On Thu(21)/Jul/05 - , Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav wrote: > > > "Liam J. Foy" writes: > > > > On Thu(21)/Jul/05 - , Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > > Please add ia64 back for releng_6 and add powerpc and ia64 back > > > > > for head. The least. > > > > > > > > I agree. I'd like to see them added back please. > > > > > > You don't have a vote. Neither does Marcel. > > > > Who do you think you are DES? Seriously, am sure you think you're above > > everyone else. You need to dumb the attitude. > > It would be helpful to realize that DES does not have an infinite amount of > hardware and bandwidth, etc. at his disposal. The tinderbox scripts are in > CVS, and you are free to setup any number of tinderboxes that you wish to > have on your _own_ hardware. In other words, if we want to keep doing > powerpc and ia64 tinderboxes (which I think would certainly be desirable) we > need to find someone with some hardware to run it on. > > > In other words again: instead of mouthing off at DES like some two year old > when his mommy takes away the toy he was borrowing from someone else so she > can give it back to the original owner, go setup a machine and run the > powerpc and ia64 tinderbox on it yourself sending out the e-mails to the > appropriate lists, etc. This is a community project, and when the load for a > specific task gets too high for one person/machine to handle, we ought to be > chipping into help share the load instead of beating up on the person who's > been doing it all by themselves up until now. > Public/commiter relations go a long way. If there are not enough resources available of some sort the obvious cause of action would be to ask for resources. Not to just axe things with a commit message that inevitably leads to this kind of silly debate. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@FreeBSD.org