From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 22 06:31:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51EDF106573C for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:31:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jasonspiro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pz0-f185.google.com (mail-pz0-f185.google.com [209.85.222.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7B98FC16 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pzk15 with SMTP id 15so4052234pzk.3 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:31:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=Mof7xuNQ6/E217iGKpQ8G5+kI0JSDY5N/LF7pn0gUek=; b=EfyCnbnk5zl5Uc91ZrESPwO3bunEqa6f44ACSYmPTCNCqmVtiBtI8a4mupgPGb+aBV M6qOOmo9ydBXOG8kbGSCUu1tPOKwwfGvnPmX5U/6NDX27jJUMNuTIO8EoddudsYx0rJL 2mEcUvDMK8o+BwxvIvnB8SPwIW02mYdGC796M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id :subject:to:content-type; b=xBQvqi+YmY+aOhCqRVyjyo5ROr2IvLHqwqqQtxEfOibaHVc423B+i2w32olwM4UxJw wGiYeY2kNOmwbQTlsqLr7CDkp9z7DATES7eiKFG//8z5d6vgfzPoNjtAYY8JfgQhxFVo r+PLpIffo5oAflUDawa9IcOdwI6ve+6vw1EE0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: jasonspiro@gmail.com Received: by 10.141.188.1 with SMTP id q1mr5305200rvp.294.1261463482073; Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:31:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Jason A. Spiro" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:31:02 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 678b2aaddd45fe8b Message-ID: To: Craig Small , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years to phase the new name in X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 06:31:24 -0000 Dear Craig, thanks for maintaining the "killall" command on Linux. Dear hackers, thanks for maintaining it on FreeBSD. Naming it the same as System V killall, which just kills all processes, can wreak havoc. When someone types a standard Linux killall command line as root on a Solaris or HP-UX server, System V killall runs and kills all processes. It might be good if you'd rename it to something else. Not "akill" (All Kill): it looks like IRIX probably ships with something called akill already, so this would be confusing. Maybe "fkill" (Friendly Kill). You could do this in phases: for the first five years, /usr/bin/killall could print a warning onscreen, then function as usual. After five years, it could cease to function unless you call it as "fkill". Craig, and hackers, are you both willing to do this? -Jason -- Jason Spiro: software/web developer, packager, trainer, IT consultant. I support Linux, UNIX, Windows, and more. Contact me to discuss your needs. +1 (416) 992-3445 / www.jspiro.com