From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 14:59:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48AA5222 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fly.hiwaay.net (fly.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F6BEB3A for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kabini1.local (rbn1-216-180-76-251.adsl.hiwaay.net [216.180.76.251]) (authenticated bits=0) by fly.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/fly) with ESMTP id t08ExBY9011023 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2015 08:59:12 -0600 Message-ID: <54AE9CB6.9080406@hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 09:05:26 -0600 From: "William A. Mahaffey III" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Gnome2 -> Gnome3 - no way References: <63179.128.135.70.2.1420560731.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> <20150107153505.GB26903@aurora.oekb.co.at> <20150107164934.e0f45beb.freebsd@edvax.de> <242E4555-34DC-4189-BEF9-1A79823B534A@firstyear.id.au> <20150108101849.4143eb55.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150108200631.293f7d40@franky.ipa.blackhats.net.au> <54AE8CEC.1000006@hiwaay.net> <54AE8E23.7070906@qeng-ho.org> In-Reply-To: <54AE8E23.7070906@qeng-ho.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2015 14:59:14 -0000 On 01/08/15 08:03, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 08/01/2015 13:58, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> On 01/08/15 03:36, William B wrote: >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>>>> Yes there is support but there is currently a bug with >>>>> changing keyboard layouts on login that as a dvorak user, >>>>> I am trying to solve. >>>> Regarding keyboard layout (a thing I hardly change >>>> during use) I prefer to either use xorg.conf to >>>> set it globally, or .xmodmap on a per-user basis >>>> (especially useful for programmable keyboards). >>>> >>>> By the way, does Mate still require HAL as a >>>> dependency? >>> Both approaches do not work as mate keyboard takes over and changes >>> the layout >>> regardless of what you set in xorg.conf, but Mate keyboard "forgets" >>> to set >>> the layout to what the user has configured. I need some time to >>> debug it >>> though work allowing. >>> >>> Not that I am aware of: HAL is a depedancy of Xorg, not MATE. >>> According to the >>> docs, and what I have checked, the "current" version of Xorg in pkg is >>> not built >>> with hal support, so it's not needed. >>> >>> >>> - -- Sincerely, >>> >>> William Brown >>> > [noise cut] >> >> What versions of xorg-server & FreeBSD does that ('current' xorg pkg >> doesn't need HAL) refer to ? TIA & have a happy new year :-) .... > > Look at /usr/ports/UPDATING and you'll find > > 20141219: > AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg and all xorg ports > AUTHOR: dumbbell@FreeBSD.org > > The X.Org server (x11-servers/xorg-server) is updated to 1.14. All > ports which provide X.Org drivers must be updated simultaneously, i.e. > x11-drivers/xf86-*, emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions, net/tigervnc, > etc. > > The input device autodetection backend is switched from HAL to devd. > If you configure your keyboard layout through HAL .fdi files, you need > to migrate this configuration to plain X.Org configuration files. > > Up-to-date instructions and a description of the changes brought by > this update are detailed in a blog post: > > > http://blogs.freebsdish.org/graphics/2014/11/19/xserver-1-14-update-ready/ > Thanks, I had read the /usr/ports/UPDATING entry, however, this A.M. I did a 'pkg version -vRL=' & there was no mention of xorg-server needing upgrading. I am on xorg-server-1.12.4_9,1 now, FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p5, that's why I was asking .... -- William A. Mahaffey III ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.