From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Feb 8 12:25:44 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA25673 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:25:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpha.comkey.com.au (alpha.comkey.com.au [203.9.152.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA25551 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 1999 12:25:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjb@comkey.com.au) Received: (qmail 13400 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Feb 1999 19:04:00 -0000 Message-ID: <19990208190400.13399.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.04 06-Feb-1999 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 05:04:00 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Mark Ovens Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape 4.5 base64 encoding problem References: <36BAD806.7E0487DC@Swansea.ac.uk> <36BAE6B9.4744F866@uk.radan.com> <36BAEB62.A4264159@Swansea.ac.uk> <36BAEEC0.546C0B05@uk.radan.com> <36BB024E.44EF4142@Swansea.ac.uk> <19990205202648.11897.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au> <36BB9B19.E697B2A@uk.radan.com> <19990207081436.5959.qmail@alpha.comkey.com.au> <36BE1B62.FE31EF11@uk.radan.com> In-reply-to: <36BE1B62.FE31EF11@uk.radan.com> of Sun, 07 Feb 1999 23:01:54 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Any suggestions? > > > > Sure, but you may not like them. First, nobody has to use > > Microsoft OSes. I choose not to use them, so I have no > > suggestions that would accommodate the idea of running three > > OSes on one machine. One of the many reasons that I don't use > > MS OSes is because that company wants to control how I do things > > and I prefer to manage that for myself -- easy with Unix. > > > > However, if there was some reason for me to have a box with W95 > > and/or NT4 on it, I would also have at least one FreeBSD box, > > since an old 486-33 with 8 MB of RAM and 130 MB of disk will do > > that just fine and those things are being thrown away by people > > who need supercomputers to run the latest rubbish from Redmond. > > I would use the 486 as my Internet gateway/firewall/etc and I'd > > hook it up to my home LAN, to which all my other actual working > > machines would be connected. All of a sudden, it's trivial to > > use Unix for everything that it should be used for ... > > Unfortunately I _have_ to have the 3 OS's on one machine. I simply don't > have house space for another :-(. I need NT for my work, 95 for the wife > and kids (so they don't trash anything important) and FreeBSD because I > want it. I really can't believe this. I have five computers under my desk right now and another three beside it. Each one takes up a space about 420x185mm (or 17x7in if you're in one of those primitive countries that uses inches) and they can easily be stacked two high (or three high with a bit of ingenuity). Since they're on a network, you don't need a screen for each one, although you'd probably use one screen for all your MS boxes and a second screen for all your BSD boxes. If you say you need NT for work, then you have your NT box. (Of course, if it was me, I'd get a real job :-) ). Your wife and kids don't *need* W95 (my wife and kids have always used Unix and managed fine), but they can still dual-boot it on the NT box. And you can use the second box for FreeBSD and keep it running all the time. Life will suddenly become all rosy if you do :-) > > The rest of this solution is self-evident, so I won't bore > > everybody with it here. > > Yeah, I know. I've finally got the message ;-) I've installed mutt and > am now trying to figure out how to setup sendmail. So from now on I'll > do all my e-mail in FreeBSD, just have to put up with lots of re-boots. Yeah, I sw that about the email progress -- good to see! But you really can avoid the reboots if you just put one more little box on the floor. Just as a tickler, one benefit of running Unix at home years ago was that I could run RS-232 lines to the kids' bedrooms and my wife's study and install a VT220 terminal in each room so they could use the computer any time they wanted to. This is still what they do -- the kids use Emacs to write their school (now university) assignments and we print them on the LaserJet using TeX and everybody is happy. Same thing for my wife with her work -- she's fine with Emacs and my TeX macro package, and she uses some stuff I whipped up with Python and PostgreSQL for her database requirements and never even thinks about the fact that she's using Unix. And it doesn't matter how much the kids or my wife need/want to use the computer, it doesn't interfere with my use at all. These days, of course, there's this LAN under my desk and a whole bunch of quite powerful hardware connected to it, but the old 486-33 that I first ran BSDI's beta release on is still humming away and still does its job as my gateway to the world and provides the 10 serial lines for modems, terminals, UPS control and so on. I wouldn't be without my Unix systems :-) -- Greg Black To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message