From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Jan 15 15:23:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00754 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:23:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00748 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:23:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tlambert@usr04.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA04759; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:23:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr04.primenet.com(206.165.6.204) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd004489; Fri Jan 15 16:23:02 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr04.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA19979; Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:22:51 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199901152322.QAA19979@usr04.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Forward all spam to UCE@FTC.GOV To: jbryant@unix.tfs.net Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 23:22:51 +0000 (GMT) Cc: yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901141505.JAA65083@unix.tfs.net> from "Jim Bryant" at Jan 14, 99 09:05:39 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > regulation, on a worldwide scale, is only a matter of when, not if. > that time is probably going to come a lot faster than a lot of people > think. IMHO, it should have been done five years ago when the abusers > started showing up in force. Regulation can not be effective when there are no insurmountable barriers to the behaviour. Prohibiting human behaviour in ways not prohibited by the laws of physics has historically had a poor succes rate. The soloution to "the SPAM problem" is "callerid" certificates, which can be obtained by proxy for older systems, if necessary, and validated via DNS reverse lookup. The certificates would be signed by an authority which was contractually obligated to not sign certificates for SPAM'mers, and time limited such that they would have to be renewed on a periodic basis. When someone sends SPAM, their machines are (effectively) diked out of the Internet. Problem solved. No law, international or otherwise, will be able to control the contents of packets. Comparing packet content in real time as it enters or leaves your country is an impossible task, and does nothing for packets that don't cross one of your "checkpoints". Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message