From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 20 09:21:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DC81065696 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:21:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34B68FC15 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id nAK9LKgw063203; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:21:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAK9LKpf063202; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:21:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:21:20 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200911200921.nAK9LKpf063202@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <4B0626C6.5020406@emailrob.com> X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-chat User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.2 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:21:36 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: lcd monitor manufacturer recommendation request X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:21:38 -0000 spellberg_robert wrote: > i need to get some new monitors, but, it has been a_while. > > when i was buying "crt" monitors i would get sony [ love that "trinitron" tube !!! ]. > nec was frequently recommended, although i never got around to trying any. > however, time marches on. > the "lcd" technology seems to be the current rage. > > q: if reliability was your only concern, which manufacturers [ 1, 2, 3 maybe ] would you recommend ? > > i like to tweak. > the kind of manufacturer i want is one whose manual gives h & v frequencies and sync timings > [ thank you, mr. lehey, for your excellent explanation of "mode_lines"; > my first attempt, so many years ago, worked on the first try > ]. When I used CRT monitors I also used to tweak mode lines, but I haven't done that in ages. It's best to forget about them alltogether. In today's world of digital monitor signals (DDC, DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort, whatever), the graphics card and the monitor will negotiate the values themselves. You don't have to do anything. You should also note that the refresh rate is pretty much irrelevant for LCD displays. While 85 Hz did make sense for CRT monitors in order to avoid flickering, that's not necessary with LCD monitors. They won't flicker with 60 Hz which is a very common refresh rate for LCD. I can't recommend a certain manufacturer, though. My recommendation is to go to a shop, look at several monitors and take the one you like best, irrespective of the manufacturer. Do *NOT* buy an LCD display that you haven't seen with your own eyes before. I'm serious. By the way, back in the CRT days, my favourite was EIZO. I disliked Sony. My EIZO F563-T is still standing in a corner of my desk and is being used occasionally. Must be at least 12 years old now, but still working fine. Well, my > 20 years old Commodore 1084S is also still working fine and being used to playback DVDs. It's not useful as a computer monitor by today's standards, though. :-) Sorry for the digression ... Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "And believe me, as a C++ programmer, I don't hesitate to question the decisions of language designers. After a decent amount of C++ exposure, Python's flaws seem ridiculously small." -- Ville Vainio