From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 21:45:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C818B1065720; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@msys.ch) Received: from sleipnir.msys.ch (unknown [IPv6:2001:4060:c0de:f000::3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778EC8FC13; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:45:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marc@msys.ch) Received: from mail.msys.ch (smtp.msys.ch [157.161.101.10]) by sleipnir.msys.ch (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n5ULjbsK026798 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:45:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.17.111] (gw.vnode.ch [62.12.170.129]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.msys.ch (8.14.3/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n5ULjbui019868 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:45:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: From: Marc Balmer To: Kostik Belousov In-Reply-To: <20090630214322.GD2884@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:45:36 +0200 References: <200906301851.n5UIpNJQ089171@svn.freebsd.org> <4A4A626A.4080801@freebsd.org> <5A796102-063B-4032-92C9-EC97AF2E5D5B@msys.ch> <4A4A7F0B.1010001@freebsd.org> <70EA13C9-997D-488D-83D6-06D603B76D11@msys.ch> <20090630212936.GC2884@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20090630214322.GD2884@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.3.6 X-Spamd-Symbols: AWL Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Sam Leffler , Martin Blapp , src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r195200 - in head/usr.sbin: . wake X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:45:45 -0000 Am 30.06.2009 um 23:43 schrieb Kostik Belousov: > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:34:36PM +0200, Marc Balmer wrote: >> >> Am 30.06.2009 um 23:29 schrieb Kostik Belousov: >>> Then, add the wake program to ports. >>> My opinion is that this better be kept in ports. >> >> I find it a rather basic operation to be able to wake up remote >> systems from a central place, so I think base is the right place for >> this. Wak-on-LAN as become part of our everydays IT infrastructure, >> as much as we support it in BIOSes and ifconfig's, we should also >> support waking up systems. > > There are infinite amount of things that are essential for some > operations. Just looking around, I found dhcp server, http servers, > scripting languages, X, vpns and so on. Hopefully, our base system > will > not grow to include that too. > > I actively oppose to the bloat of the base system, and I consider the > tool to be unappropriate for it. Use ports. Please. I really don't consider a ~4K command bloat. For this kind of commands/stuff, base is the right place.