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[174.109.231.236]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a10sm4920964qkh.122.2021.03.19.10.38.58 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (zeus.seibercom.net [192.168.1.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F2B2p1DN8z1y5f for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2021 13:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 13:38:43 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OS to replace FreeBSD Message-ID: <20210319133843.000045a9@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20210319101040.00005c35@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/m4qUetPp3Rr_2/7kf68B2=V"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F2B2s4kznz3M55 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=Kf6hWNmG; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.25 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; GREYLIST(0.00)[pass,meta]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[174.109.231.236:received]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.85)[0.846]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::72c:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:39:02 -0000 --Sig_/m4qUetPp3Rr_2/7kf68B2=V Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 10:13:57 -0700, David Christensen stated: >On 3/19/21 7:10 AM, Jerry wrote: >> With the soon-to-be release of version 13 of FreeBSD and the EOL of >> FreeBSD 11.x, I will need to invest in a new OS. Due to FreeBSD=E2=80=99s >> unfortunate inability to squash bug >> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D237666, l am left >> with no choice but to seek out a new OS. I need a bare-bones system >> that can run a mail server, Postfix with Dovecot, and a few other >> utilities. =20 > > >Looking at that link, I see: > > ... > Gerard Seibert 2021-02-25 21:01:04 UTC > ... > # dmidecode 3.3 > ... > Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes > System Information > Manufacturer: Dell Inc. > Product Name: XPS 8930 > Version: 1.1.15 > Serial Number: 19WS903 > UUID: 4c4c4544-0039-5710-8053-b1c04f393033 > Wake-up Type: Power Switch > SKU Number: 0859 > Family: XPS > > >Dell says: > >=20 >https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/xps-desktop/spd/xps-8930= -desktop > > Operating system > > With Windows 10 Home > > >So, Windows 10 Home is the only operating system supported by Dell on=20 >that computer. Windows 10 Home should not exhibit the bug you have=20 >encountered. > > >Check if your software is supported on Windows 10 Home. If so, >install Windows 10 Home and install your software. > > >Alternatively, get another computer that is known to be compatible >with your OS and software of choice. > > >I am running 12.2-RELEASE-p4 GENERIC amd64 without any problems on: > >* Dell PowerEdge T30 with Intel Xeon E3-1225 v5 > >* Intel S1200V3RPL with Intel Xeon E3-1225 v3 > > >David You are incorrectly interpreting the data. Windows 10 Home is the base system. It also comes with Windows 10 Pro as an upgrade. I have used both and FreeBSD 10 & 11 successfully on this unit. The problem is with FreeBSD's code change between versions 11 and 12. The fact that I am not the only one bitten by this bug, and the inability of FreeBSD to correct it, and it has been over a year, is certainly not encouraging. I will acknowledge that it was a fairly cheap system. I only needed it for a mail server and a few other odds and ends. If I had purchased a top of the line, cutting edge system then I would certainly not have expected FreeBSD to support it. That is one of the reasons I didn't. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/m4qUetPp3Rr_2/7kf68B2=V Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCAAdFiEELeCiu2K+9VmEYYgTgHBP8gv9FXcFAmBU4aoACgkQgHBP8gv9 FXev2gwAmupOFacsKblTBpqhbBjk4Bk0usT5fYj3CYz1U8GqXRH08CbYO2/pPMgV JBYcbvJTeHwRlArtMTOXqOkteteuNhbS+4a82GyObKkH0ISN/+eqStvWYsaxXt3n 2pt9s41iIacKZ39qLw7hEFSLkU2W8qy8yWAZO+mWkPUbvey2r7tizmnTPMDPKaoy DUoQXTfUD5LXEihheyefDU1LsIy97W8NjGDX5smjsscg0IZil5U/k1OFXtKBKH38 HhiEIAizEYKNBrkEdeQYOMhKpE+v/i5g48thL+qAs0NMbMnrPKeawPScFCrhyBhw 7U1diQGjCDQzWoLoIlz16K95zGP1pbpAzpGZc9NAyS4Hk/nWSORuqhu22ZmrPqKN zWYUZlaAYRYo9BvPJvNyQWvsRg2s3OmqMk6SCDWKz4om+wLQAINkfc1oLf96nGNa 69l4mRniXaAJAVLglkN/PfXTu6ue2c9MVPCbvA/gQvL2a1YipmmQsTPh4Bd6l5Pl /AiieUcY =Btiz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/m4qUetPp3Rr_2/7kf68B2=V--