From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 1 14:12:29 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4297316A50A for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:12:29 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.204]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C3443D3F for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:12:26 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torstenvl@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 79so134130rnk for ; Mon, 01 Nov 2004 06:12:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=W7ffvMWBAgi2hzPoWrAEkof5geMqYPv7tjB2ybAaK3PqwYTVf4xAoT2kS/lbHxTrm0cK83JJqe0Hbl5F9cc4eJXIAuGjZ7vN3Z6k2LwAMmwgKPDNoTZyqOjgrEA9hcnfjJCfY8Deb/j63pFSPBEUbLEkME58G77trz3diw0v/jQ= Received: by 10.38.150.78 with SMTP id x78mr750144rnd; Mon, 01 Nov 2004 06:12:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.73.67 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 06:12:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <126eac4804110106127610fe07@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:12:25 -0500 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Josh_=C5=8Cckert?= To: Ted Mittelstaedt In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041031105926.4f06b06f.flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org> cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: =?UTF-8?Q?Josh_=C5=8Cckert?= List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 14:12:29 -0000 Actually, Ted, to us newbies, it is uninteresting. Most of us come from Linux and know the GPL fairly well by now. Since YANAL (You Are Not All Lawyers), I think these discussions are kind of a waste of time On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:13:28 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Miguel Mendez [mailto:flynn@energyhq.es.eu.org] > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:59 AM > > To: Ted Mittelstaedt > > Cc: davids@webmaster.com; chat@freebsd.org; TM4525@aol.com > > Subject: Re: GPL vs BSD Licence > > > > > > I don't know if you're aware of this, but this kind is *useless* > > discussion has been going on on the mailing lists for *years*. Check > > groups.google.com and you'll see that everything you might want to add > > about GPL vs BSD has already been said a hundred times. John Dyson > > posted a lot about it, then Brett Glass did for a while, and now you. > > > > Have you ever stopped a minute to think about why this is? > > FreeBSD is not a dead operating system. Every day there are dozens if > not hundreds of NEW UERS who have NEVER encountered these 'useless > discussions'. To them, these discussions are not uninteresting, and > provide much needed background. Furthermore the topics keep coming > up because these licenses are being applied all of the time to new > software packages all of the time. There are always new situations > that these licenses are being used in. > > > If the time wasted on these rants had gone into writing software we'd > > have a 100% BSDL system today. My very humble suggestion is that you > > please take this somewhere else. I've never seen a GPL advocate 'see the > > light' and start licensing his software under the BSD license after > > having a conversation with a BSD 'zealot', or vice versa. > > > > You probably missed the issue if you think this is a discussion meant > to convince someone BSD is better than GPL. The people on this list > already KNOW that BSD is better than GPL. They don't need convincing. > What they DO need to know, however, is WHY. That is educational discussion > not useless argument. > > My humble suggestion to you is that you shake off the idea you seem > to have that the ultimate goal is a 'finished' 100% BSDL system. If > that ever happened, BSD would be dead. > > Minix is a 'finished' system. Xenix is a 'finished' system. Covalent > is a 'finished' system. FreeBSD is not, and hopefully never will be. > > Ted > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-chat-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >