From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 24 21:50:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F205C16A4E0 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:50:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) Received: from mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.166]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71AB743D70 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:50:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) Received: from c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au [220.237.183.166]) by mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6OLnxOY025027 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 07:50:00 +1000 Received: from c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k6OLoowF019168 for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 07:50:50 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) Received: (from andrewr@localhost) by c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k6OLona8019167 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Jul 2006 07:50:49 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au) X-Authentication-Warning: c220-237-183-166.frank1.vic.optusnet.com.au: andrewr set sender to A.Robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au using -f Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 07:50:49 +1000 From: Andrew Robinson To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20060724215049.GL59927@ms.unimelb.edu.au> References: <20060724185941.180C716A53C@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060724185941.180C716A53C@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:50:05 -0000 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Danial Thom" > To: "Greg Barniskis" ; "Nick Withers" > > Cc: ; ; > > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? > > >> Burying your head in the sand is a common method >> used by stupid people that have no answer to the >> truth. I don't blame you; you guys don't want >> your employers to know that you've wasted man >> 1000s of their dollars because you don't know the >> performance characteristics of the hardware >> you've recommended. It must be thoroughly >> embarrassing. [snip] > > I do agree with Danial that most USERS on this list are > burying their heads in the sand on this issue. But I will > point out that there isn't really any reason they shouldn't > be. What the market wants is features, not speed. And > that is what the FreeBSD developers are working on. Writing as a USER on this list - I think that the Total Cost of Ownership is also an important consideration. I run FreeBSD because the user-machine combination is more efficient, even if the OS itself is slower - and I don't know about that. I escaped from Windows via Linux and settled here just when 5.0 came out. I really like the tools and the organization of the OS. More features is nice, more speed is nice, but I just like the way that it works. Warm kudos to the developers for that. Andrew -- Andrew Robinson Department of Mathematics and Statistics Tel: +61-3-8344-9763 University of Melbourne, VIC 3010 Australia Fax: +61-3-8344-4599 Email: a.robinson@ms.unimelb.edu.au http://www.ms.unimelb.edu.au