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Date:      Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:21:20 +0300
From:      Markiyan Kushnir <markiyan.kushnir@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem
Message-ID:  <5034F8F0.2000506@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20120822102956.GA43074@lpthe.jussieu.fr>
References:  <20120822102956.GA43074@lpthe.jussieu.fr>

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Already read and discussed/flamed here.

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Markiyan.

On 22.08.2012 13:29, Michel Talon wrote:
>
> David Jackson said:
>
>> In reference to the claims that systemd developers "do not care about
>> portability", this is deceptive and misleading.
>
> You should read the following interview of Lennart Poettering
> http://linuxfr.org/nodes/86687/comments/1249943
> The amount of hubris and self confidence he deploys is really
> astounding. I will just quote two extracts:
>
> " LinuxFr.org : Systemd use a lot of Linux only technologies (cgroups,
> udev, fanotify, timerfd, signalfd, etc). Do you really think the Linux
> API has been taking the role of the POSIX API and the other systems are
> irrelevant ?
>
> Lennart : Yes, I don't think BSD is really too relevant anymore, and I
> think that this implied requirement for compatibility with those systems
> when somebody hacks software for the free desktop or ecosystem is a
> burden, and holds us back for little benefit.  "
>
> and cherry on the cake
>
> "LinuxFr.org : Why Linux desktop hasn't been adopted by the
> mainstream users ? Linus Torvalds seems to think it's mostly a social
> issue and not a technical one. Do you agree with him ?
>
> Lennart : I think we weren't innovative enough in the interface, and we
> didn't have a convincing message and clear platform. If you accept MacOS
> as benchmark for user interfaces, then we weren't really matching it, at
> best copying it. I think this is changing now, with GNOME 3 which is a
> big step forward as an interface for Linux and for the first time is
> something that has been strictly designed under UI design guidelines.
> "
>
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