From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Apr 14 9:50:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0993337BF23 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 09:50:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khera@kciLink.com) Received: from onceler.kcilink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3849EE896 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:50:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kcilink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00529; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:50:09 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kcilink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14583.19521.791635.880264@onceler.kcilink.com> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 12:50:09 -0400 (EDT) To: stable Subject: Re: 4.1 date? In-Reply-To: <20000413213504.C7055@speedy.gsinet> References: <20000412183413.A69623@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20000413101202.A6605@luna.cdrom.com> <20000413181640.B99705@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20000413102553.B6605@luna.cdrom.com> <14582.2028.935360.217820@onceler.kcilink.com> <20000413213504.C7055@speedy.gsinet> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "GS" == Gerhard Sittig writes: GS> On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 13:46 -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: >> >> One reason not to use 4.0 is that the sound drivers are not >> available for certain sound devices; 4front is not giving out >> 4.0 compatible drivers yet. GS> Just a question: Do you believe that these drivers come sooner GS> from pushing a release through the door? I cannot see the No; I'm just stating the fact that one reason not to run 4.0 right now is that you *LOSE* functionality by doing so. Running 3.4 I get everything working just fine (except one big NFS problem, but I can live with that.) GS> relation between incrementing the release number before time and GS> having drivers available. If 4front hasn't drivers yet, do you GS> expect them to grow from calling something 4.1? I have no idea why 4front is not yet releasing 4.x drivers. They hand-wave about it being a lot of rewriting work. GS> If a product lacks features this important to you, consider not GS> using it at all. If you want some of the new features and still Exactly why I'm not using FreeBSD 4.0. It lacks a feature that is important to me. GS> miss this very one(?) thing, think of replacements. Have a 4.0 GS> box do its work and play the sound somewhere else (ever heard of GS> rplay and other networked sound system? noone ever said a Yes; I used to use NAS when I ran an Xterminal. Now I have everything on my desk, so why would I want another box in this room just to run the sound? Makes no sense. GS> computer must have a noise board built in just to produce some GS> sounds). It has one, so why shouldn't I use it? Makes no sense to suggest using another box just for sound. Besides most apps don't support NAS. Really only XEmacs was what did support it. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 PGP & MIME spoken here http://www.kciLink.com/home/khera/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message