From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 9 18:17:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3C516A4CE for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 18:17:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from saturn.criticalmagic.com (saturn.criticalmagic.com [68.213.16.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0E343D1D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 18:17:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from richardcoleman@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (titan.criticalmagic.com [68.213.16.23]) by saturn.criticalmagic.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B383BD10; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 21:17:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <40283F46.5050307@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 21:17:42 -0500 From: Richard Coleman Organization: Critical Magic, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway References: <20040209022820.00faa408@pyro.convolution.ti> <20040209043217.GA1009@xor.obsecurity.org> <4027871E.8080800@mindspring.com> <20040209215345.GA21980@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20040209215345.GA21980@xor.obsecurity.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Bruno T." cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: -fno-strict-aliasing X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: richardcoleman@mindspring.com List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 02:17:26 -0000 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 08:11:58AM -0500, Richard Coleman wrote: > >>Kris Kennaway wrote: >> >> >>>On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 02:28:20AM -0200, Bruno T. wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hi everyone. >>>>i'm pretty new to bsd, but i have some background in linux development >>>>and for what i have seen until now, i must say that -CURRENT is rather >>>>impressive, congrats ! >>>> >>>>I was rebuilding my base sys and noticed that any compiler flag >>>>that implies -fstrict-aliasing (like -O2) would break some few things, >>>>adding "-fno-strict-aliasing" to "CFLAGS+=" in these makefiles >>>>solves the problem for now. >>> >>> >>>Don't do that then :-) >>> >>>Kris >> >>Although it's not urgent, I don't see why the aliasing problems can't be >>fixed. I think it would be more honest if the party line was "FreeBSD >>has bugs, so we can't use -O2 right now" rather than the standard reply >>of "-O2 is not supported, don't even try". > > > It's "don't even try unless you plan to fix them". > > Kris I don't have any problem with that. The person that started the thread (Bruno) was actually looking at the code (at least the Makefiles). I guess my point is that we should never dampen someone's enthusiasm for fixing bugs. We can be pretty grumpy around here sometimes :-) Richard Coleman richardcoleman@mindspring.com