From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Dec 9 16:52:06 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA23459 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:52:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA23443 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:52:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kurihara@rindou.Japan.Sun.COM) Received: from Japan.Sun.COM ([129.158.31.2]) by mercury.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/mail.byaddr) with SMTP id QAA19281 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 1998 16:49:35 -0800 Received: from pine.Japan.Sun.COM by Japan.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-sd.fkk200) id JAA11536; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:46:27 +0900 Received: from uganju.Japan.Sun.COM by pine.Japan.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA03947; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:49:08 +0900 Received: from uganju by uganju.Japan.Sun.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA02041; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:49:02 +0900 Message-Id: <199812100049.JAA02041@uganju.Japan.Sun.COM> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 09:49:02 +0900 (JST) From: Nobuhiro Kurihara Reply-To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Read this... To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: dtmail 1.2.0 CDE Version 1.2 SunOS 5.6 sun4u sparc Content-Type: text X-Sun-Text-Type: ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have already been asking if Sun can provide machine(s) for this project informally. If we seriously want to have support from Sun, we have to show them the (potential of) good market for this OS. And convince them the porting can be done. I don't ask Sun to provide $$$ nor as official request from FreeBSD- SPARC. I've been asking about machines only. Of course, I'm speaking here privately. I'm not a Sun's spokesperson. > > > > http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,29695,00.html > > > Can someone tell Sun to support us? 8) > > > > Hopefully they'll see the light soon enough. > > Not unless they actually hear from *us* and others. > The Linux fanatics foam at the mouth and scream at (if not demand) > vendors to support them. > > Has anyone that is capable of making real progress contacted Sun to ask > for a development machine? Sun offered Jordan 2-3 Ultra machines 1-1.5 > years ago to use in porting FreeBSD to the Ultra. > > Jordan turned them down, saying that FreeBSD wasn't interested [at the > time] unless Sun also gave some $$ to support maintenance of the port once > it was done. At the time there didn't seem to be any/many FreeBSD > developers interested in the Sparc. And the idea of making the Ports > Collection run on the Sparc is a very scarry thought. We have yet to see > just how well we will support the Alphas. > > Because of Jordan's/FreeBSD's response, Sun then decided to have one of > their own port FreeBSD to the Ultra. This is where Jason Evans > . To quote one of Jason's emails: > > As has been alluded to in some of Jordan Hubbard's email, Sun > Microelectronics (SME, the processor division of Sun) recently > discussed paying FreeBSD core to officially support a port of FreeBSD > to SPARC. These plans fell through in some way (I wasn't part of the > discussion, so I don't know details), but SME is having me work on > the port. > > -and- > > A while back, SME approached FreeBSD core and offered monetary > compensation of some nature (I don't know the details) in exchange > for an official UltraSPARC port. FreeBSD core turned down this offer. > Once again, I don't know details, but one of the main statements made > (actually somewhat inferred) by Jordan Hubbard was that SME's offer > was not of major interest since to be of long term use to FreeBSD, > such a proposal would need to include support for a number of years > from someone internal to Sun. > > There is no reason we can't, provided someone is prepared to spear head > it, ask Sun for a simular offer. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message