From owner-freebsd-advocacy Mon Jan 27 4:45:42 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F17D37B401 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 04:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A3D43ED8 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 04:45:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: from blackhelicopters.org (mwlucas@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0RCjSc4093967; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 07:45:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0RCjRaH093966; Mon, 27 Jan 2003 07:45:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 07:45:27 -0500 From: Michael Lucas To: Willie Viljoen Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter Kieser , Stacy Olivas Subject: Re: Project to improve FreeBSD PR Message-ID: <20030127074527.B93869@blackhelicopters.org> References: <200301270026.32035.will@unfoldings.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200301270026.32035.will@unfoldings.net>; from will@unfoldings.net on Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 12:26:32AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I suppose, after me bitching that "nobody had done anything," we should be happy to now have an embarrassment of people willing to actually do something. :-) Glad to see you working together. ==ml On Mon, Jan 27, 2003 at 12:26:32AM +0200, Willie Viljoen wrote: > In the excitement of setting up a project, it seems Stacy and I have managed > to steal it inadvertantly from Peter Kieser. Our sincerest apologies to Peter > for the offence, we hope that we can mend some fences and possibly join > forces with him. > > Also, some people, including Peter, have offered servers to help host a domain > for such a site, our thanks to you all. Please keep the pledges coming. > > The origional idea for the project is from Peter Kieser, , > please contact him with sugestions you might have for such a project. > > An HTML version of the mailing list's "TO DO LIST" to improve FreeBSD PR, > origionally posted by Eric Anderson has been set up by Stacy Olivas > and is available at http://digiflux.org/fbsd-advocacy/ > > If you wish to contribute hosting of back-up DNS, back-up MX or WWW space for > the planned web site, please contact me for details. > > Once again, we apologize profusely to Peter and everybody else for our > overzealous grabbing of his idea, we're not only looking for technical > contributions, any hands we can get are welcome too, we hope that Peter would > be willing to give us a hand, possibly as a project leader and/or an editor > for the site, I certainly don't think I'm much of a project leader, and I'm > sure Stacy would agree that we could do well focusing on technical aspects of > such a project, with someone with the right field of skills providing the > leadership and co-ordination we would need to tackle this properly, and most > certainly to avoid stepping on people's toes in future. > > Any technical help would also be appreciated, or even links or resources you > may know of that would be handy to such a project, please let us know. > > It is my hope that Peter and Stacy aren't too vexed by the arogance I > displayed with my past few postings, especially appealing for help with > servers without consulting either of them, and, as Stacy writes in an earlier > e-mail, that we can work together with instead of against each other. Also > with other projects out there that might be doing the same thing. I'd feel > very silly reinventing the wheel all the time if others have already put alot > of work into this. It would be better to draw upon their input than to start > from scratch and most probably affront even more people in the process. > > Sorry for all of the misunderstandings and unpleasantness I have caused, if > you feel like it, flames may be directed to will@unfoldings.net > > With the hope that this will mend some fences and un-burn some bridges... > > Kind Regards > Will > -- > Willie Viljoen > Freelance IT Consultant > > 214 Paul Kruger Avenue, Universitas > Bloemfontein > 9321 > South Africa > > +27 51 522 15 60 > +27 51 522 44 36 (after hours) > +27 82 404 03 27 (mobile) > > will@unfoldings.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@FreeBSD.org, mwlucas@BlackHelicopters.org http://www.BlackHelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Absolute BSD: http://www.AbsoluteBSD.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message