From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 4 01:30:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69F4F7B6 for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 01:30:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-x236.google.com (mail-la0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BFD07E2E for ; Wed, 4 Feb 2015 01:30:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id hv19so55370349lab.13 for ; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:30:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=ObOSU7udbQ0TixY/jj6S3eTnMkMezDUOP6R+uGwr3aQ=; b=O5v4jWDwEAikJWS86tkZHSl47lCJvHE64R4FqtMhmYkdug4Dj0JmQvVHKa7+TChzug 2mNWVk9oZFqXQCX55jRdbF0k67on1REjmuTrCBW4412FNuzG76i0PvHQVH90uTMzhoAd TDscrCsnmAt4Ib8wd/W/24/JMNRLTd9lPk7b63+b6t0KJD9XcPqJjP95nRmZNnWMmVt/ 6yOBJj87ATBBN4mxbOX4XeRgSxHDM4ox1g4VaTvmew8gXh5kKUK8vTbFdiHQNzyEnUy9 4Uqe6BsuT+AuDHJO0TMe9NPT/G8KypEVjlmdi2idBC8Kj84Dr3Xgy3qc9g4ZnTK+PHD+ KQUA== X-Received: by 10.112.220.36 with SMTP id pt4mr541823lbc.15.1423013433565; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 17:30:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.30.9 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Feb 2015 17:29:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: zenxyzzy Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 17:29:53 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: reintro and pkgng aghastness To: Torsten Kirschner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.18-1 Cc: "freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 01:30:36 -0000 it also runs the 440 mhz ultrasparc. the specs say 400 is the limit, but hey, 10% more cpu is there, too. just don't overclock it - I did fry one 440 mhz cpu that way. --curt On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:30 PM, Torsten Kirschner < torsten.kirschner@gmail.com> wrote: > No, like he wrote, the only reason why the U5 was "limited" to 512 MB was > that the tall modules wouldn't fit, because the space was occupied by the > floppy drive. > Low sticks fit nicely under it. There are low profile sticks with 256 MB > each. > The U5 runs 1GB RAM exactly like an U10. > > Den onsdag 4. februar 2015 skrev Jacob Ritorto > f=C3=B8lgende: > > really, you found a way to get to 1G? I thought only 512 was possible ev= en >> with the weird tall sticks? >> >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:53 PM, zenxyzzy wrote: >> >> > I've also had luck putting the tall memory modules in an ultra 5, >> bumping >> > it to 1G ram. this did take me removing the (quite useless) floppy >> drive. >> > later, I got some X7039A's, which are low-profile versions. then I go= t >> > room to put another 3.5 inch drive in. >> > >> > --curt >> > >> > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jacob Ritorto >> > wrote: >> > >> >> hmm, got the 2013 version on CD. It made it pretty far along but >> crashed >> >> and burned whilst loading the miniroot, or whatever they call it, to >> >> ramdisk. Memory's just too darn small. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:11 AM, zenxyzzy wrote: >> >> >> >>> I've had luck putting a sata to scsi adaptor on a DVD. should be ab= le >> >>> to boot that. also, there's plenty of IDE dvd's around. you'd have >> to >> >>> open the ultra 5 up, though :-> >> >>> >> >>> --curt >> >>> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Jacob Ritorto < >> jacob.ritorto@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Was just about to do that - I have it running on my T1000. But >> >>>> Martin's open source politics scared me a little a few months ago - >> he >> >>>> pulled everything OpenSXCE-related from the Internet and there was = no >> >>>> recourse for the OpenSXCE user community. Maybe it's worth another >> go now >> >>>> that that appears to be sorted out. Unfortunately there's no way >> for me to >> >>>> load the 2014 bits on my Ultra5 as it's a dvd-only release :\ >> >>>> >> >>>> thx >> >>>> jake >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:41 PM, zenxyzzy >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> There's another option that maybe you shouldn't ignore. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> OpenSxce. it's illumos plus a lot of hackery minus a lot of >> stupidity >> >>>>> for Sparc. I run it happily on my Sun Blade 1000. modern ZFS and >> >>>>> everything. >> >>>>> XVR-1000 support. root on SSD. fan control support - this clinch= ed >> >>>>> it for me. neither linux or freebsd can turn the freaking fan off >> or down. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> plus source. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> plus, runs solaris 11 binaries from that "O"ther company. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> get it from opensxce.org >> >>>>> >> >>>>> --curt >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Jacob Ritorto < >> jacob.ritorto@gmail.com >> >>>>> > wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Hi, >> >>>>>> I'd been away from FreeBSD for fifteen years, but I'm back and >> I'm >> >>>>>> pleased to announce that I'm using a computer that's from around >> the >> >>>>>> time I >> >>>>>> left FreeBSD :) It's a nice little Sun Ultra 5. Bone stock; >> doesn't >> >>>>>> even >> >>>>>> look like the case has ever been open. I recently had to stop usi= ng >> >>>>>> Solaris >> >>>>>> because they're became evil and Illumos because they're kind of n= ot >> >>>>>> supporting this hardware anymore. I tried OpenBSD, but its >> >>>>>> applications >> >>>>>> just crashed. So here I pragmatically am. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I like FreeBSD. I didn't leave out of disgust or anything; >> mostly >> >>>>>> just >> >>>>>> employment being all-Sun years ago. So it's cool revisiting it a= nd >> >>>>>> seeing >> >>>>>> all the changes and all the stayed-the-sames. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I'm pretty exited about the new FreeBSD pkgng system. I had th= e >> >>>>>> extreme >> >>>>>> pleasure of using it whilst installing my SPARC last night (which= , >> >>>>>> unfortunately, took from mid evening until around 4:30 in the >> >>>>>> morning. (I >> >>>>>> didn't have any cds or floppies at my disposal, so I instead buil= t >> the >> >>>>>> network / diskless system installl on a virtualbox vm on my Mac a= nd >> >>>>>> installed FreeBSD to the SPARC from there). Good old >> >>>>>> rarp/boopt/tftp/nfs! >> >>>>>> Reminded me of Sun Jumpstart! I was really pleased that this way >> of >> >>>>>> doing >> >>>>>> things still works on FreeBSD Truly a slick and smart design. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> But is it true that I can't actually use pkgng on my real >> computer >> >>>>>> because It's not a PC? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I've been looking around the Internet for some hours, now, to n= o >> >>>>>> avail. >> >>>>>> Are there seriously *no* package repos for SPARC? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> If that's the case, I'd like to help remedy it. I've read arou= nd >> >>>>>> on how >> >>>>>> to contribute, but it seems none of what's out there pertains to >> >>>>>> pkgng for >> >>>>>> sparc. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Please let me know if I'm understanding the situation right and >> how >> >>>>>> I can >> >>>>>> help, if help is wanted. I have a lot of SPARCs and they need a >> >>>>>> trustworthy operating system with software package system that >> >>>>>> doesn't have >> >>>>>> to be manually-wrought. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> "Oh, wow, it just finished its five-plus-hour ports build of >> freaking >> >>>>>> tmux!" >> >>>>>> jake >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list >> >>>>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 >> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to " >> >>>>>> freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g >> " >> >