From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 11 18:32:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FADD1065670 for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:32:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from noc@hdk5.net) Received: from guam10.hdk5.net (guam10.hdk5.net [66.180.132.235]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407978FC1F for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mohawk7.intra.net (unknown [66.180.149.18]) by guam10.hdk5.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B13B1CC1E; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:32:43 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <4A81B94A.3060608@hdk5.net> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 08:32:42 -1000 From: Al Plant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071128 FreeBSD/i386 SeaMonkey/1.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tim Judd References: <4d4e09680908100838h6d42432fwd0ec9a10d145b809@mail.gmail.com> <20090810170248.GB49364@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <4A805CD8.2030508@beanfield.com> <4d4e09680908102237u27f8b370s7bfe4b2ede3321ab@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Identry , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: toaster or do-it-myself? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:32:45 -0000 Tim Judd wrote: > On 8/10/09, Identry wrote: >> Frack... qmail is impossible. I've been hacking at this for 14 hours >> and it's just not working. I must be stupid. > > > If you're open to suggestions, there are two typical camps on this. > first one being a majority. I've done both, and don't know which one > to favor > > > 1) A mix-n match bag of software daemons that make it all work: > postfix MTA, dovecot POP3/IMAP, your choice of virtual user database, > squirrelmail (or another webmail) product. That gives basic > functions. Add anti-spam (spamassassin is common), and anti-virus > (clamav). > > 2) Install Courier suite, in which the same developers have a MTA, > POP3/IMAP, webmail suite. Add Anti-Spam and Anti-Virus and your kit > is complete. > > > For the first time, I was able to install an email subsystem that > eliminates all spam without an anti-spam software app. Based on the > blacklists for known spammers, and a blacklist for accidental > spammers, we're curbing most if not all other spam mails from being > accepted by the MTA. The first blacklist are blocked by the firewall, > second blacklist is checked at each incoming connection and the MTA > will send notice to the remote connection (in the event it's a real > person sending mail from a spamming host), on how to clear themselves. > > There isn't any AV suite to speak of, but if we're killing all > susceptable spams, the viruses are from the same bunch so we're > killing two birds with one stone. > > > Soon, I'll revisit Courier and see if my same mail setup is able to > accomplish the same goal, and I know the first blacklist will happen, > it's the 2nd I'm not so sure about. > > > > Getting a toaster-application is nice, speedy setup. but you work > with it's limitations or drawbacks. Building your own gives more > flexibility, and depending on setup, it'll be no more than a > toaster-application -- or a whole lot more. > > > Ask us questions, there's lots of posts online. > For a quick setup, i always > - Install FreeBSD > - Run freebsd-update fetch install && reboot > - Install binary packages, and update them using your choice port > upgrade utility, if any > > That's the quickest way to get a server live and operational... > because a non-modified port options = same binary that's offered as a > package. > > > Identry, send me a mail offlist if you want clarification on this post. > > Good luck. > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Aloha, After trying qmail and a couple other email systems I like Tim installed The postfix dovecot combo from FreeBSD ports. I have had it working on two separate servers for about 4 years I think. Recently I had to rebuild a server due to a hardware failure and was pleased to see that the maintainers had set the defaults to what I happen to use so all it took was checking the settings against my old install and up she went on the new machine. I second the #1 choice Tim made. Works for me here. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 6.* - 7.* - 8.* + < email: noc@hdk5.net > "All that's really worth doing is what we do for others."- Lewis Carrol