From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 31 00:50:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2EE16A401; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:50:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl (smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl [213.51.146.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D13243D6B; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:50:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danny@ricin.com) Received: from [213.51.146.190] (port=35609 helo=smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl) by smtpq1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FP7qB-00052L-Og; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:50:15 +0200 Received: from cp464173-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl ([84.27.215.228]:51578 helo=desktop.homenet) by smtp1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FP7q9-0007jc-2P; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:50:13 +0200 From: Danny Pansters To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:50:09 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <200603300730.35065.davidxu@freebsd.org> <442BF3C8.6030503@pacific.net.sg> <200603310813.26187.davidxu@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200603310813.26187.davidxu@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200603310250.09658.danny@ricin.com> X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Cc: David Xu Subject: Re: away X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 00:50:22 -0000 On Friday 31 March 2006 02:13, David Xu wrote: > =D4=DA Thursday 30 March 2006 23:05=A3=ACErich Dollansky =D0=B4=B5=C0=A3= =BA > > > Hi David, > > > > David Xu wrote: > > > I will go away today due to some unpleasant person attack to me, in t= he > > past, > > > let me tell you about a conversation I have had recently with a Chinese. > > He wondered how people with a different social background handle things > > like this. > > > > He learned that a situation which makes Chinese mortal enemies for at > > least a year makes people having a beer on the very next day if they > > come from a different background. > > > > He learned this with his own experience. > > > > > because the work load was large, I admit I have made some coding > > > mistakes which some people think it is serious while other don't think > > > so, > > > > People who criticize you do no mistakes? > > > > > made to me is very harmful, I feel I can not recover from such > > > disaster, > > > > What disaster? > > > > Did you do some work for that big software company known for their > > 'open' software? > > > > Take a break! > > > > Erich > > Thanks for you encourage, the disaster is my skill was doubted and insult= ed > and I may lose job opportunity, this can kill me if it is widely spreaded. Well it just may be that the eye of the beholder isn't that clear at all. I= =20 think you're viewing all this in a much too modest way, it may be a cultura= l=20 difference. I think instead you should take the stance that with your work= =20 things work and without it doesn't and is there anyone as qualified as you= =20 who w/could suggest another way? (answer will be a long silence mostly). How come you're so insecure? Everything points to that. Why? You know much= =20 more than most of us do. The people paying you should know better than to=20 judge you based on what people _not_ paying you are saying (even if those a= re=20 right. then you can adapt, no? that's what open source is about, and maybe= =20 you'll finally get the feedback you always wanted in the process -- I said = we=20 were short of people, we're even more short of feedback generally). Also, kudos to DES who I think handled the damage control as best as possib= le.=20 Well done there. Take a vacation David, and then just come back, that would be my advice if= =20 anyone cares ;-) (and yeah I can be a prick ever so often by my own device, and feel ashamed= =20 for it later. people are people) Dan