From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 22 22:33:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59677C37; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x236.google.com (mail-wi0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7A45D13; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f182.google.com with SMTP id h11so2442122wiw.15 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:33:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tlH/X91KnkNe5EbSXq/mQZlwEMy56Wgbk6Xq6v8L1ps=; b=mlD6vuR9gQsh3g/uaRVki2lAzkKyBBNf69z4vpLZreZD4sBeHSmsdzIyKVR50NTw98 lxOwgphNnefzI4R1Y452a2QovXS/+LMfZ++MxOh886sgj9Ku98sA0TamJi9YhYYJUMog Lr6XjQhAJ+MZAzbvyhjjlxp0nby5FId6LIpkwYhxNkIgWV0O8dvAMIP8Kg1lhaOwyWbS Ca1rO70fMmdR3w6NZM+k9hPe0S2u6v1Mcn+yKrigjl33To4rIG1fC9yF6fwOH6UFONyo 4Pilvpf1Ugjya24edi5o6fkl17wa7IG33Dq3onq0VFBa/ENXJT3ma0+wgoLAJ1k5c18f UFUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.47.226 with SMTP id g2mr20040562wjn.68.1416695591317; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:33:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.106.136 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:33:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <86a93juegz.fsf@nine.des.no> References: <201411200552.sAK5qnXP063073@svn.freebsd.org> <20141120084832.GE24601@funkthat.com> <20141121092245.GI99957@funkthat.com> <1416582989.1147.250.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <026FEB8A-CA8C-472F-A8E4-DA3D0AC44B34@grondar.org> <1416596266.1147.290.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <1416598889.1147.297.camel@revolution.hippie.lan> <7387FDB9-206F-418F-8B0B-D1FB9723A4D7@grondar.org> <86a93juegz.fsf@nine.des.no> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:33:11 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kvQgR4cWAs5G7JgewpSDPJIUVM8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r274739 - head/sys/mips/conf From: Adrian Chadd To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , Ian Lepore , Mark R V Murray X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 22:33:13 -0000 On 22 November 2014 at 13:12, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav wrote: > Adrian Chadd writes: >> Unfortunately there are things that the real world expects on these >> silly embedded platforms that we can't avoid [...] So, we can't just >> "not" have random ready early at boot [...] > > Sorry to break up a good shouting match with facts, but: > > | r273958 | des | 2014-11-02 03:01:55 +0100 (Sun, 02 Nov 2014) | 5 lines > | > | Restore the auto-reseed logic, but move it to a much later point, > | immediately before kick_init. > | > | Approved by: so (self) > > which will be three weeks ago in about five hours. Auto-reseeding was > off for about 80 hours, and three weeks later you and Ian are still > acting like it's off and we're refusing to turn it back on. Grow up. And I thank you for that. -adrian