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Date:      Wed, 03 Sep 2014 23:53:39 +0200
From:      Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [BRAINSTORMING] simplifying maintainer's life
Message-ID:  <54078DE3.30409@gmx.de>
In-Reply-To: <20140903192106.77fecfdf@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org>
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Am 03.09.2014 um 19:21 schrieb Tijl Coosemans:

> Hmm.  Those characters would have to be escaped, just like on the command
> line.  glob(3) already handles all of that though.
> 

Meaning we start checking all pkg-plists now.

I would find it extremely important that a simple "-v" for verbose, or
something equivalent, and that is prominently documented everywhere,
leads to the system revealing all decisions and findings that it makes
for automatisms like glob expansion.

Remember that we need to keep things simple for newcomers - and if
people show interest in helping with ports, we don't want to confront
and turn them away with a system that keeps the user in the dark about
what it's doing.  I find there's already a lot of magic in pkg going on
for daily use where I need to set DEBUG_LEVEL=3 or 4 to understand what
it's up to... and that quickly gets unwieldy.

Bottom line is, given the tools and helpers we have (make makeplist) we
should seriously turn our focus to matters that cause greater pain.




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