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Date:      Thu, 25 Oct 2012 13:02:39 +0200
From:      Lars Engels <lars.engels@0x20.net>
To:        Zoran Kolic <zkolic@sbb.rs>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 9.1 and intel graphics
Message-ID:  <20121025110239.GN82606@e-new.0x20.net>
In-Reply-To: <20121021144845.GA1139@mycenae.sbb.rs>
References:  <20121021144845.GA1139@mycenae.sbb.rs>

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On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 04:48:45PM +0200, Zoran Kolic wrote:
> > AFAIC Matthew Seaman already gave you a wonderful suggestion to add
> > yourself to the group "operator" and just use the command "shutdown"
> > with your own rights only. Did you try this suggestion?
>=20
> Actually, it is wheel group.
> To me it is "normal" to read mail and do something mundane in
> console, to startx for browsing things that cannot be seen pro-
> perly in lynx, to go back to console when done. I found no harm
> su-ing in graphics and doing root work, like write to usb stick
> or else. Eye catching is to use console in public, but...

Nope, wheel let's you use su(1) but not shutdown(8). You need to be in
the operator group for that.

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