Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:31:43 +0100 From: "Chris J. Mutter" <cjm@terminal.sil.at> To: Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net> Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Gimme FreeBSD anyday! Message-ID: <200002151031.LAA12850@terminal.sil.at> In-Reply-To: brooks's message of Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:56:44 -0800. <20000214165644.B7643@orion.ac.hmc.edu>
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> On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 07:13:37PM -0500, Troy Settle wrote: > > > > Today, I had my first experience with Solaris. Had to install and > > configure it. > > > > This is like asking a rank-amature mac user to install and configure > > Windows NT 3.51. Solaris is a joke! well had the same feeling at the begin but I got used to it and its not that bad as everyone says. > > The installation process asked for some networking stuff, but never > > bothered to ask for a default route. Had to put this in manually at > > first, but later found out that you had to create /etc/defaultrouter (or > > some such crap). What a configuration scheme... one directive per file. > > OUCH! > > The default configuration of a solaris box is kinda lame, but there are > number of things like about it's installer over sysinstall. I've found > that the steepest part of the learning curve for Solaris is in the > initial setup phase. It's much easier if you have someone to ask about > the quirks. > > > Then, I went to add a user. This went ok, but when I went to use chpass > > to edit the user information, I see that it's not in root's default path > > (still haven't figured out where they have it). Had to use vipw, which > > pulled up some lame-ass GUI editor by default. Talk about nasty. I'd > > rather use ee. > > I assume that GUI think was dtedit or something like it. My first rule > of surviving Solaris is don't run CDE. In fact, don't run CDE is > probably my first three rules. ;-) Infact, if the box has work to do, > running X is generally a bad idea without tons of RAM. I've seen the X > server hit more then 150MB on my Ultra 10. Add that to netscape and > staroffice with a powerpoint presentation open and you'll swap a 256MB > system to death. Well the good thing here is: Im using Solaris here as XDMlogin server and have to admit that Ive never seen a system running so smooth with 236megs of real RAM and half a gig of swapspace in use than this one. I swaps a lot but you dont _feel_ that it is swapping... and its a quite cheap intel box with pretty slow and old 2gig scsi drives. Seems the VM-subsystem really rocks. I would use FreeBSD for this whole task if there would be some official Java support for other OSes than Solaris/NT. Java on Linux/BSD is pretty useless. > > Can anyone tell me just how the hell Sun manages to sell this crap? Or > > are people addicted to the hardware, and suffer the OS for that reason? > > > > *sigh* > > > > I'd just as soon trade this thing in for a beefy FreeBSD box (or even > > NT!), but the software we gotta run is only for Solaris. > > It's frankly not that bad. The big hardware is very nice in a number of > applications and once you're use to the OS it's not that hard to live > with. I'd certaintly take it over NT, and quite possiably over Linux, > but I'd rather have an equivelently priced FreeBSD box built to my specs > then the Ultra 10 in my office. jup. never underestimate a Sun-Boot-PROM .... *gg* I dont use Sun hardware since they switched to PCI/PC-crap ... love the IPC/IPX/SS1/2/5/SBus stuff. later, cjm -- SILVER SERVER \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ \\\\\\ \\ \ cjm@sil.at www.sil.at -- PGP-Key-ID: 0xA941452D - CJM17(-RIPE),SIL-MNT http://www.enemy.org -- You can't spell evil with vi. Can you? - No, my name is John Rambo. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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