From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Apr 14 23:37:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52251153C1 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:37:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn3023.bossig.com [208.26.243.23]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA18348; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3715886E.E6888C7D@3-cities.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 23:34:22 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Slater Cc: "'freebsd-questions@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Fact or Fiction (Unix vs NT) References: <21EF26FF9AD8D01180E9BA3BC10000000EA13A@george1.iexpress.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a 100baseT network in my home. There are 4 Windows based systems (3NT and Win98). My hub shows >30% when I transfer files from one of my MS machine's to another MS machine using drag and drop. The %1 led lights up with FreeBSD. I see 200-400KB/sec (just like a few other people have been seeing on the list) when I FTP to my FreeBSD version 3.1 system. I tried ftp'ing files to my NT server. The only activity when I started the file transfers was an occasional heartbeat. What I recorded was 630-650KB for two files to NT. The same two files going to FreeBSD averaged 340-353KB. I have a few 16MB tarballs that I will try later. The web server violates tradition. Why would MS go to Unix on their news servers if NT can handle the load. Rootsweb at ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/review/ commented in the 24 Feb 1999 article that they handled 85 Million Hits and 154 Million E-mails on systems that I think are based on Linux. They would argue the point. Kent Michael Slater wrote: > > Hi All, > I realise this relates more to Linux, but in my company which if > full of NT Fanatics they are taking this as gospel and using it as an > argument that NT Rules and Linux and FreeBSD cant do the job! Can > anybody point me to similiar benchmarks that dispute the letter below ? > > regards, > > Michael Slater > Internet Express > > > LOS GATOS, Calif., April 13. Today, Mindcraft released the results > > of a study comparing the performance of Red Hat Linux 5.2 (updated > > to the Linux 2.2.2 kernel) and Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 > > operating systems. According to the report, Windows NT Server > > provides over three and a half times the performance of Linux as a > > Web server. Furthermore, the report shows that when testing Windows > > NT Server and Linux as file servers, Windows NT Server provides over > > two and a half times the performance of Linux. The full report, > > including all of the details needed to reproduce the tests, is on > > Mindcraft's Web site at: > > > > http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/nts4rhlinux.html. > > > > Using benchmarks from Ziff-Davis Benchmark Operation (ZDBOp), the > > report compares the peak performance levels of both Windows NT > > Server and Linux configured both as a file server and a Web server. > > > > All tests were performed on a standard Dell PowerEdge 6300/400 server > > with four 400-MHz Xeon CPUs, 1GB RAM (960MB for Linux -- this is the > > default maximum amount of RAM that Linux supports). To simulate a > > client load, Mindcraft used 144 physical client test systems; half > > were running Windows 95 and the other half were running Windows 98. > > > > Both Linux and Windows NT Server were tuned to perform optimally under > > each of the two workloads. "We started the tests using standard Red > > Hat > > Linux 5.2 but had to update it because it does not support hardware > > RAID > > controllers and SMP at the same time," said Mindcraft's president, > > Bruce > > Weiner. "Linux definitely takes more time and resources to tune and > > to > > configure than Windows NT Server. You have to search the Net to find > > the > > latest kernel and driver versions to get the highest performance and > > most > > reliable modules. Then when you're done, Linux fails to deliver the > > same > > level of performance as Windows NT Server on enterprise-class > > servers." > > > > Mindcraft's report shows that using ZDBOp's WebBench 2.0 Web server > > benchmark, Windows NT Server and Internet Information Server (IIS) 4.0 > > reach a peak of 3,771 requests/second and 22.4 Megabits/second(Mbps) > > of > > throughput. The report goes on to show that Linux and the Apache 1.3.4 > > > > Web server reach a peak of 1,000 request/second and 5.9 Mbps of > > throughput. The WebBench 2.0 tests also revealed that there are > > problems > > with Linux/Apache at high client loads. "The Linux/Apache Web server > > performance collapsed with a WebBench load above 160 client test > > threads, > > while Windows NT Server/IIS continued to increase performance up > > through > > 288 client test threads without reaching their peak performance," adds > > > > Mindcraft's Bruce Weiner. > > > > To simulate a file server workload, Mindcraft used ZDBOp's NetBench > > 5.01 benchmark. The testing revealed that Windows NT Server > > performance > > peaked at 286.7 Mbps with 112 clients, while Linux running Samba 2.0.1 > > peaked at 114.6 Mbps with only 48 clients. "The integration of the > > SMB > > file sharing protocol with the multi-processor kernel is a key > > performance > > win for Windows NT Server," said Weiner. "Customers benefit every day > > from > > the superior scalability of Windows NT Server, which delivers vital > > file > > and web services at two to three times the performance of Linux as > > shown > > in these benchmarks," said Edmund Muth, Group Product Manager, > > Microsoft > > Corporation. "Empirical data like this helps customers and planners > > make > > informed decisions, and showcases the industrial strength technology > > and > > mature engineering of the Windows NT Server operating system." > > > > About Mindcraft > > > > Mindcraft is a service-oriented, independent test lab. The company was > > founded in 1985 to provide high quality services and products to > > vendors > > and end users who want to test software, system, and network products. > > Mindcraft is committed to work to promote standards in our industry. > > Mindcraft is the only test lab to be a member of the Standard > > Performance > > Evaluation Corporation (SPEC). > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message