From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 27 01:46:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615591065676; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:46:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.233]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5796B8FC24; Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:46:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k40so3693451rvb.1 for ; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:46:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bM9Kfb/m+4YFjXg3LErz4JN7WQUFIrlDYOidoKMDYXM=; b=rM8YJqi70dA478kzEnLmDIKThqicqpasQPp7QCs9mp4kCi2AG1+27O3poqRM+wCPxZ hwk+9cjhxtcMKNFGO1pAGph4iZSmqs6t3GWRYJBixMn9/hJ9gA/uSd9hrZfKwVbjE9xY lkoOotw9z7JECYIGJ+FPvBOgw6HA+6utlebdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=RU+bkuZqA56+dFYxRWqsh4P+cAJi4b2xUpc87tfCEFkj1poevsFsXKv0mY82vqaRM1 hLmEhRLp1D+UEhyUxbVWV9IfYmQ6gI7ygsO270ZR89xHPfr/W0QSr8/vml98kr1/by9Q kfH0hkCUn7LDxA45wnQj7Y2FnNIwOjvXiVizY= Received: by 10.141.203.7 with SMTP id f7mr5523369rvq.125.1230342372125; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:46:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.135.2 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:46:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7d6fde3d0812261746g66d19d2clf646333cf9da5559@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:46:12 -0800 From: "Garrett Cooper" To: "Alfred Perlstein" In-Reply-To: <20081227011017.GW18389@elvis.mu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200812121158.mBCBwRPT096820@svn.freebsd.org> <20081226234619.GT18389@elvis.mu.org> <1230336804.25666.11.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <20081227011017.GW18389@elvis.mu.org> Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Ken Smith , src-committers@freebsd.org, Ken Smith Subject: Re: svn commit: r185982 - head/usr.sbin/sysinstall X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 01:46:13 -0000 On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Ken Smith [081226 16:13] wrote: >> On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 15:46 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: >> > Does this mean that the user has to find the "Linux" package in the >> > "add packages" area now? If so, that seems a bit complicated to >> > get started. There's a LOT of packages. Pardon if I'm missing something >> > obvious here. >> >> Yes, sort of. >> >> I've asked portmgr@ to help with setting things up so we've got a couple >> of new meta packages that help users set up a usable workstation >> relatively painlessly. They've said we can work together with the Gnome >> and KDE folks to try and get that set up. I'm not sure at this point if >> Linux emulation will be part of that or not, we haven't gotten quite >> that far yet. And we'll do something to make those meta-packages >> relatively easy to find. For example without something along those >> lines a user may just select the "gnome2" metapackage thinking they'll >> get a usable workstation but at least as of the last time I did >> something like that you don't quite wind up with a usable workstation >> (xorg-server is missing for example :-/). >> >> That said this has sort of been threatened for quite a while now, and >> having sysinstall not care about any packages before it hits what is >> currently its "Do you want to browse all the packages" section is needed >> if we're talking about not including pre-built packages with the release >> itself and that sort of thing. We're just setting it up so all packages >> get treated as packages instead of some being intertwined in earlier >> phases of sysinstall. > > OK, that makes sense. Please track it though, it would be bad to wind up > "hiding" Linux compat from users under a huge package selection. > > thanks, > -- > - Alfred Perlstein Yes, but it'd be nicer for linux compatibility to point to actual working linux emulators instead of long-defunct packages (the Redhat emulation package -- bleh). I'm all for improving the linux compat layer packaging -- thanks Ken! -Garrett