From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mon Oct 8 17:09:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FDB710C50AE for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurenchan@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-xd2a.google.com (mail-io1-xd2a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 943AB729E1 for ; Mon, 8 Oct 2018 17:09:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gurenchan@gmail.com) Received: by mail-io1-xd2a.google.com with SMTP id w2-v6so10202874ioc.1 for ; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 10:09:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=d1ZManbecSztex+pUG7KXuCUbKKUuP4mpOOFC8uOI/g=; b=dq39S0FBJXK6pavNLqU+cgqROH9rsQBHjSJvrQMjcelJ3JEkIbRcekVX6L8ks8sh8v hxUketjuNgN4U3zEniBZ1KPyyTfpgJsNiqPtx1HuWDalaNO+yRHWRZnE+W0YxKMlD5dz 9yA9vwIAa7W7eQVwqKMf6WbP18HCxTz6yFVvncJSs7+DrMDGq0G0nzwODIIvVfkzVGmm 9GAxwSNaB/IWzruxmge0zSSjd1GzaFdoFI/+wwTDXH4llNvbZW7bYFZhqw9kNRG8i8kz 4k5eepp5OFMUdr5sgwbMOObbysZFW2sRu1Hu0gH5njLlOXk+zl+PhBwxiPuGkTWj25Kh 6Gdw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=d1ZManbecSztex+pUG7KXuCUbKKUuP4mpOOFC8uOI/g=; b=cJs/lhWVtTu7Bf8MliEwtDxPgwSVASs/bPKyRzpD08mrwjyx80ytg/FNUf/OkHEGAj 6LpUlnouLJJuOaHeeJxOzsVIkbH0crdQtu2DAjWaYka4+lnX+X1/C786UO86B8/t+hdi XavoGAnpuWdewCPpMu3bFVOpTXHsrlGGpIggjCmoZ1Kthodi6gnAyTEmpzogF9srxIVq s1duRD3Pi2Q+h+EVTjc4oEYXCIu4ek2OTkzJX9V7F8HF+Y3ZmOGy7zlgPNTtOLcZS7hW o6yDztxG4OhKfhwPBxsBDO4012OvkvHeEJkhRo7ddPm/bQciVADgiwxp4LHnJlsj324Q TAiA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfog7Hs+P9jRTg9UWSvUSepa7TC1liYfttsfRiVKMH/dCtVknzkGj nB2DmWF8Q3NUaVJUXHrJEEojylhEGMsX6ruN1VA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV61euVvvaTXSYSPsTQRxAiEOfOGlunrPCTnYKwUSfzk2OjqgWn+vGWUDV4n9EflULi39W2s75nH0TW/Jh+WhEmI= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:8d8a:: with SMTP id p132-v6mr15737061iod.240.1539018591023; Mon, 08 Oct 2018 10:09:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: blubee blubeeme Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2018 01:09:39 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: dmesg submission service -- please submit today To: staroscik@gmail.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 17:09:52 -0000 On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 12:48 AM Matt S wrote: > It really seems like the project would benefit from having better hardware > stats. If you make it a package, people have to be educated to get it and > use it--not that it doesn't have value, it just isn't well exposed and you > will only get stats from the most clueful users. > > I would suggest making anonymized stat upload part of the install and > upgrade process, to get wider coverage. > > - When installing, there's a new step or checkbox with an opt-in for > hardware data sharing, defaulting to off > - If you opt in, your info is uploaded as part of the install process > - Expose the same functionality in a new system-level command like > 'freebsd-uploadstats' and make it an optional but suggested part of the > upgrade process, which is something most users will see repeatedly if they > continue to be users. > > Perhaps the local machine can generate a hash of the report, check that > with the server before the upload goes through. Hardware doesn't change > that often. > > I do not want the project to turn in to Google or Microsoft, but knowing > the hardware in use is a pretty worthy goal. > > MS > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern