From owner-freebsd-fs Mon Mar 25 2:52:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from thebsh.namesys.com (thebsh.namesys.com [212.16.7.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9383637B416 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 02:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25135 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2002 10:52:44 -0000 Received: from backtop.namesys.com (HELO namesys.com) (212.16.7.71) by thebsh.namesys.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2002 10:52:44 -0000 Message-ID: <3C9F0F17.3000500@namesys.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 14:50:47 +0300 From: Hans Reiser User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/20020310 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert Cc: hiten@uk.FreeBSD.org, Greg Lehey , Chris Mason , Josh MacDonald , Parity Error , freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.org, reiserfs-dev@namesys.com Subject: Re: [reiserfs-dev] Re: metadata update durability ordering/soft updates References: <20020318195817.26106.qmail@web21105.mail.yahoo.com> <3C967EE4.5E60D36@mindspring.com> <3C9E1D92.9040608@namesys.com> <3C9E6CF7.2872C6E7@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert wrote: >Hans Reiser wrote: > >>Terry Lambert wrote: >> >There are heroic technical measures you could take to get >> >around these restrictions (BeOS links GPL'ed code into GPL >> >external handler programs, and then talks to them via IPC >> >to get around the GPL on come code, for instance), but the >> >effort of doing that is probably more than simply writing >> >a drop-in replacement from scratch, which is more than just >> >licensing the code. >> > >>I think that BeOS violates the GPL. Linking is not in the license >>language. Derivative is. >> > >They make the full source code for these programs available. > >I think that somone who writes non-GPL'ed code that communicates >over a data interface to GPL'ed code, and treats the GPL'ed code >consistently with the terms of the license, is not in violation. > >Specifically, if use of a data interface to a GPL'ed program >by a non-GPL'ed program made the non-GPL'ed program GPL'ed, >then the first time someone used Internet Expolorer ro surf >to a web site whose content was served by a GPL'ed web server, >IE would become GPL'ed. > >That's really an indefensible position. > >-- Terry > > Socially indefensible, maybe, logically indefensible, not at all. What is probably legally indefensible is to GPL without offering any additional license at any price (for antitrust reasons). Hans To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-fs" in the body of the message