From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Aug 21 18:24:27 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216391065674; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:24:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C328F8FC13; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:24:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:248b:b3cd:918d:d0d2]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 648D74AC1C; Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:24:25 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:24:24 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <569113961.20110821222424@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: Nathan Whitehorn In-Reply-To: <4E513802.9090306@freebsd.org> References: <927966496.20110820112229@serebryakov.spb.ru> <4E513802.9090306@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: lev@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 9.0-BETA1 installer glithcies (i386) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 18:24:27 -0000 Hello, Nathan. You wrote 21 =E0=E2=E3=F3=F1=F2=E0 2011 =E3., 20:53:22: > GPT is bootable on all x86 systems, with either EFI or BIOS, and is now Ok, I was not sure here. >> (5) Partition creation dialog has button "Options", but modify dialog >> doesn't. > This is by design. The installer can't run tunefs, nor is there even > something like tunefs for some of the supported partition types=20 > (msdosfs, for instance). There is no FSes created at this stage. As far as I understand, now creteion of BSD partitions inside (MBR/GPT) slice is combined with creation of FSes on these partitions. And when I create "ada0s1a" with type "Freebsd-ufs" and want to turn soft-updates on it, I cannot without partition re-creation because "Modify" doesn't have "Options" button. And "newfs" will be called only on submit, much later! >> (7) Partition editor doesn't seen existing filesystems and doesn't >> warn about parititoning disks with existing filesystems. I have two >> (virtual) disks common for all my VMs -- with sources (one common disk >> per version) and with some scratch space (common for every my VM), >> FSes are created without any partitions or slices, directly on device >> nodes (ada1 and ada2). PArtition Editor doesn't have any sign or >> warning, that ada1 and ada2 contains valid FreeBSD filesystems. > I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. It lists all existing > partitions on all existing disks and warns you before replacing them=20 > with new ones. It has no way of knowing (from GEOM) about UFS file=20 > systems directly on disks, nor do any of our other system tools. GEOM_LABEL? ;-) These UFS2 file systems has valid labels :) > Why would you expect it there? It is perfectly possible to mount Because here is no obvious way to turn on/off softupdates and new su-based journaling when partitions are created. And no way to turn these options on/off with "Modify", either, even BEFORE filesyystems are really created. Also, such options to newfs as block sizes, etc. > existing file systems from the installer -- they just have to live on=20 > partitions. I'm not sure whether we want to support the case of the=20 > totally unpartitioned disk in the installer, anyway. Old installer had support for DD (Dangerously Dedicated) disks :) >> (9) Lot of LORs on slice/partition creation and newfs. > Yes. These are not an installer problem, but should be fixed. Yep, I understand, that it is not installer problem... >> (10) Mistype password for Root for second type -- no message about it, >> simple "New password:" prompt. It is not obvious, what happens. > That's the usual way passwd works? (which is what is running) passwd, run by hands on installed system, says "Mismatch; try again, EOF to quit". >> (11) No way to mount NFS file systems :) > You can do this easily from the shell of course, but I'll try to think I even could install FreeBSD from shell without any installer at all :) I have such experience, and it is not very difficult :) > about an appropriate UI for that. It may not get done in time for the=20 > release. Great! --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov