From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 26 06:43:43 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E6ED16A4CE for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2004 06:43:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from ciistr2.ist.utl.pt (ciistr2.ist.utl.pt [193.136.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E358743D31 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2004 06:43:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bruno@mrna.ist.utl.pt) Received: from mail.ist.utl.pt (mail.ist.utl.pt [193.136.128.8]) by ciistr2.ist.utl.pt (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648984A737 for ; Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:43:41 +0000 (WET) Received: from mrna.ist.utl.pt ([213.22.170.137]) (AUTH: LOGIN bruno.afonso, SSL: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by mail.ist.utl.pt with esmtp; Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:43:40 +0000 Message-ID: <403E061E.30307@mrna.ist.utl.pt> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:43:42 +0000 From: Bruno Afonso User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (Windows/20040207) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org References: <200402192315.i1JNFxo4004083@caligula.anu.edu.au> In-Reply-To: <200402192315.i1JNFxo4004083@caligula.anu.edu.au> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.83.2.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: traffic normalizer for ipfw? X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:43:43 -0000 Darren Reed wrote: > normalizing is over rated as a firewall feature - it's really > something that belongs in IDS software. > > >>We're looking at bringing pf into the tree. > > > For what benefit you have to wonder... It's BSD licensed. It's nicely integrated with altq that will also hopefully come into the tree. That alone is worth it, let alone other nice features. And yes, users like this features and that's something you are going to have to live with. Please stop this pf bashing you are fond of and stop thinking you know what others like/want in a firewall. Choice is a great thing, respect that. BA -- Bruno Miguel Afonso Biological Eng. student D.E.Q. @ I.S.T. - Portugal GnuPG Public key: http://dequim.ist.utl.pt/~bruno/gpg