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Date:      Thu, 20 Mar 2003 20:45:52 +0100
From:      Arjan van Leeuwen <avleeuwen@piwebs.com>
To:        Eric Anholt <eta@lclark.edu>
Cc:        ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HEADSUP: XFree86 4.3.0 update / Radeon 7200 and 7500 problem
Message-ID:  <200303202045.52719.avleeuwen@piwebs.com>
In-Reply-To: <1048047448.615.407.camel@leguin>
References:  <1047429424.8471.40.camel@leguin> <20030318064627.007a48b9.steve@sohara.org> <1048047448.615.407.camel@leguin>

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Hi,

I'm having a strange problem in Quake 3 with an original Radeon (Radeon 7200 / 
R100) with XFree86 4.3.0 running on -CURRENT from 13 march. Someone else with 
a Radeon 7500, also running X 4.3.0 on a recent -CURRENT, is experiencing the 
same problem.

Mouse movements are lagging behind about 1 to 2 seconds when entering any menu 
in Quake 3 that has moving objects (like the main menu) and when trying to 
play the game. This doesn't mean that it doesn't look smooth - it's running 
about 60fps - but the mouse movement just comes 1 or 2 seconds later than 
when I made it.

We tried installing the newest Quake 3 point release (1.32b) to fix the 
problem. This didn't help.

Are more people experiencing this problem? Is there a fix for this?

Best regards,

Arjan

On Wednesday 19 March 2003 05:17, Eric Anholt wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 21:46, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
> > On 17 Mar 2003 16:44:18 -0800
> > Eric Anholt <eta@lclark.edu> wrote:
> >
> > EA> With X 4.3.0 and the r200 open-source driver on -current I get 2,244
> > EA> FPS.  :P
> >
> > 	Does r200 differ from RV200 ? My AIW 7500 gets 1151 fps (-stable)
> > which is fast enough for my needs, but if it should go faster I'd like to
> > fix it.
>
> The r200 driver covers the R200 and R250 chipsets.  The 7500, however
> uses the radeon driver (it's got r100 features).  It's not that
> significant, really, I should have just said DRI up there.  I was using
> an 8500 sample board. That 1151 fps sounds reasonable for a 7500, not
> knowing your processor.
>
> The one thing to do to speed things up is add Option "EnablePageFlip"
> "YES" to the Device section of your XF86Config.  It has been working
> well for me, but there may be some correctness issues that have kept it
> from being default.  I'll ask to see what's preventing it from being
> default.
>
> > 	It'll do as a benchmark figure, it can't be any more misleading
> > than most of them.
>
> No, it is definitely misleading, because of the incredibly small subset
> of all operations that it does, and the infrequency of the operations
> glxgears uses being used in other programs (particularly for something
> where speed actually matters).


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