From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Apr 24 07:22:42 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6946AD4DA19 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felixphew0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-it0-x232.google.com (mail-it0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 290B4C8C for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:22:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from felixphew0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-it0-x232.google.com with SMTP id g66so48178672ite.1 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:22:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=sHQPwGF2CkyMkNTjD3ObeoDslTWEXECzIMn+4KrEmpo=; b=Qp90cUFeMuSyMJgg7tSL0ra6Cqy4HMV35PfjPehxJxK2GMEpyT5i4M9Gjvfcmw4ctR 3aSMwDzG8WMmOFMIh9oVWBKxxbuIDbr+mcrYze01XWu558yPtodNb+GFWVlmaBjEHvWq RbWcZonqhvmaNPOxxnaBHhGqf4BsjDjKwdNPpmd6/mqPR+kojM6JN3xvpZB8FcTjpNO/ x/z5qyU0IVgxk7Qw/4h/hEyAPkMSmbDv2petQs5KKKc3AegzBzcMmHVi2Y0/u17iCtEj 3cB4t4zn7tQwkUSUZiBx0/wWuyur2nThNPv8abJITleN90JDqfRkE8N2uhT+Y/9n6MfC LBMw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=sHQPwGF2CkyMkNTjD3ObeoDslTWEXECzIMn+4KrEmpo=; b=CEz1gw6EzlsZmaZvoxNSQUYQcS0me8rs+OLEBCG0etYYWr3Hez+vlkE4LWpeCJ8wyg T3YOhz6wi0dEMe6rzR907SjbskaNp9ftvHFvJPn4DgDuuOkUtwEurQjaphF1jV39SMoU fMW1ppSY1C3M14goZdZ/MrgMfOnQKZ4iFBvNql8XiubB2osraSLC+fjhxCvOpFEJ6Mur qrPLtTfIFUGM3X7vfKBua7tSclH39scN0p0ysGKsSRoqL88oJ6wxb6W8S4SAABczTra2 1ZzraJ1CUliEJ7BvcJnEyc4l+QIr1Gl2f9qeyy0RUdpIDyWPGzcmX6okaDrztRZxj1cK Dm5w== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/5lgFNSqRi+YtV73pTTzOfqun5BRSqT7X8XTN1SYNGGekfo8NEN pSqq7UwWmcVxYg== X-Received: by 10.98.71.65 with SMTP id u62mr23067947pfa.180.1493018561439; Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.35] (c49-177-162-140.frank4.vic.optusnet.com.au. [49.177.162.140]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q85sm28818977pfj.112.2017.04.24.00.22.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: Accessing UFS partitions from a Macbook From: Felix Friedlander In-Reply-To: <97.AF.29375.8DC6CF85@dnvrco-omsmta02> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:22:36 +1000 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20170420233840.N9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170421011323.Q9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20170421021427.F9330@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <97.AF.29375.8DC6CF85@dnvrco-omsmta02> To: Thomas Mueller X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 07:22:42 -0000 >> Considering how BSD-ish it seems in Terminal - df, du and other = commands >> working as expected - I was a bit surprised that it doesn't support = UFS >> natively, given its heritage. When I first ran mount it complained - = as >> will FreeBSD without an fstab entry - about needing the -t switch, = but >> 'mount -t ufs' didn't complain about that but a (not) missing = directory. >=20 > There might be differences resulting in incompatibility between the = versions of UFS in various BSDs, and Mac OS main filesystem is HFS+. >=20 > I noticed, after downloading DragonFlyBSD installation image, dd'ing = to USB stick, and booting, it could read GPT partition table but was = unable to mount any FreeBSD and NetBSD partitions. >=20 > Last DragonFlyBSD image I downloaded and dd'ed to USB stick didn't = even get through the boot. >=20 > FreeBSD and NetBSD were unable to mount the DragonFly USB-stick = partition. >=20 > There is also the issue of BSD disklabels when using MBR, and one BSD = not being able to read the other's disklabel. OS X did originally support UFS1 (in Disk Utility as well as on the = command line), but it dropped that support many versions ago. UFS2, the = normal version for FreeBSD, was (AFAIK) never supported. Fun fact: OS X also had undocumented, partial support for ZFS at one = stage, but it was dropped - presumably because of a legal dispute with = Oracle. --=20 Felix Friedlander