From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jun 24 10:02:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA11224 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:02:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.ppp.net (mail.ppp.net [194.64.12.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA11093; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 10:02:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ernie!bert.kts.org!hm@ppp.net) Received: from casparc.ppp.net (casparc2.ppp.net [194.64.12.42]) by mail.ppp.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA09216; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 19:02:01 +0200 Received: from ernie by casparc.ppp.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0yosvo-002ZjcC; Wed, 24 Jun 98 19:02 MET DST Received: from bert.kts.org(really [194.55.156.2]) by ernie.kts.org via sendmail with smtp id for ; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:13:03 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2.0.91 1997-Jan-14 #3 built 1998-Feb-14) Received: by bert.kts.org via sendmail with stdio id for sos@freebsd.org; Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:08:10 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2.0.94 1997-Apr-22 #1 built 1998-Jun-6) Message-Id: From: hm@kts.org (Hellmuth Michaelis) Subject: Re: PCVT's death In-Reply-To: <199806241233.OAA14751@sos.freebsd.dk> from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Schmidt?= at "Jun 24, 98 02:33:05 pm" To: sos@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 24 Jun 1998 18:08:10 +0200 (CEST) Cc: jkh@time.cdrom.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: Kitchen Table Systems Reply-To: hm@kts.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Søren Schmidt wrote: > Well, just tell us when you are ready then, but don't expect the world > to stand still inbetween.. I really hope someone will be there to prevent you from removing pcvt in the meantime, yes. > > > Even better, do you have any areas in which you'd like some help? > > > > The best thing were a framework for handling lowlevel keyboard stuff, video > > stuff, (for those who want it) mouse stuff and X11 stuff in which all sorts > > of emulations and fancy things can live. The great unified console driver we > > talk about since 386BSD. This would mean that all the nitty-gritty stuff would > > be done only once and not duplicated in all drivers and one could really > > concentrate on the emulation. > > Well, that might be arranged, but you need to adjust to that framework then. Have you ever heard of c-o-o-p-e-r-a-t-i-o-n ? Thats a behaviour which is fundamentally different to dictate. Read Jordan's question again. Got it ? And please stop putting more oil into the fire, ok ? Its enough already. hellmuth -- Hellmuth Michaelis hm@kts.org Hamburg, Europe A duck is like a bicycle because they both have two wheels except the duck (terry@cs.weber.edu) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message