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Date:      Wed, 27 May 2020 12:52:22 +0300
From:      Yuri Pankov <ypankov@fastmail.com>
To:        Fehmi Noyan ISI <fnoyanisi@yahoo.com>, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: diff(1) -N behaviour - Bug 233402
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Fehmi Noyan ISI via freebsd-hackers wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 27/05/2020, at 9:06 PM, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 08:52:38PM +1200, Fehmi Noyan ISI via freebsd-hackers wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 23/05/2020, at 11:47 PM, Yuri Pankov <ypankov@fastmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Fehmi Noyan ISI via freebsd-hackers wrote:
>>>>>> On 23/05/2020, at 11:21 PM, Yuri Pankov <ypankov@fastmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fehmi Noyan ISI via freebsd-hackers wrote:
>>>>>>> Hiya
>>>>>>> Apparently, after we switched from GNU diff to BSD diff, the -N flag no longer assumes absent files as empty.
>>>>>>> There is a bug report about GNU diff compatibility but when I look at diff(1) man page, I see that not treating absent files as empty is intentional rather than a missing functionality.
>>>>>>> If this is not the case, I can work on patch to match to GNU diff behaviour, otherwise, this bug report can be closed I think.
>>>>>>> What’s your take on this?
>>>>>>> -N --new-file
>>>>>>>     If a file is found in only one directory, act as if it was found
>>>>>>>     in the other directory too but was of zero size.
>>>>>>> man for GNU diff
>>>>>>> -N, --new-file
>>>>>>>     treat absent files as empty
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think both descriptions say the same, i.e. "zero size" == "empty”?
>>>>> Maybe it’s my interpretation, but if you do not supply the second argument to diff(1), it complains
>>>>> $ echo “test” > a.txt
>>>>> $ diff -N a.txt nofile
>>>>> diff: nofile: No such file or directory
>>>>> $
>>>>> GNU diff assumes an empty file for the missing second file and makes the comparison
>>>>> $ echo “test” > a.txt
>>>>> $ diff -N a.txt nofile
>>>>> 1d0
>>>>> < test
>>>>> $
>>>>
>>>> I must admit that I never used -N without -r, so it's probably the only case that needs fixing?
>>>>
>>>> $ mkdir a b
>>>> $ echo bar > a/foo
>>>> $ diff -ruN a b
>>>> diff -ruN a/foo b/foo
>>>> --- a/foo       2020-05-23 14:44:34.525932000 +0300
>>>> +++ b/foo       1970-01-01 03:00:00.000000000 +0300
>>>> @@ -1 +0,0 @@
>>>> -bar
>>>>
>>>
>>> Took me a while to reply…
>>> With -N, GNU diff does not give an ENOENT
>>>
>>> % echo foo > bar
>>> % diff bar nofile.txt
>>> diff: nofile.txt no such file or directory
>>> % diff -N bar nofile.txt
>>> 1d0
>>> < foo
>>>
>>> Do we want BSD diff do the same, i.e. match the -N functionality of GNU diff?
>>>
>> Yes we do, if you do provide a patch I would be more than happy to review and
>> apply it.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Bapt
> 
> Cheers…
> 
> I will be working on it and update bug 233402

Great!  I wasn't discouraging you, rather trying to understand what case 
exactly we are talking about.  Also, I think the -N option description 
in the man page should look more like GNU's one, as currently (I think) 
it implies that -r is used and we are comparing directories recursively.



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