From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 18 00:51:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536DA1065672 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:51:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [206.40.34.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4008B8FC14 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [206.40.34.5]) by mx5.roble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BD067CDC; Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:51:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 16:51:42 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Marquis To: Mike Kelly In-Reply-To: References: <20120217120034.201EB106574C@hub.freebsd.org> <20120217152400.261AC106564A@hub.freebsd.org> <20120217194851.D76DE1065670@hub.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <20120218005143.536DA1065672@hub.freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, Sergey Kandaurov Subject: Re: periodic security run output gives false positives after 1 year X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:51:43 -0000 > 1) Make it an option. > 2) If it isn't set, keep the output like it is now. > 3) Set it by default in new installs, with a comment above it that it > might break things. That way people upgrading get a warning, too, and > can keep it the way it has been if they'd like. You can, but it'd be like sendmail logging which has no fixed format and correspondingly few log report programs. OTOH Postfix learned from that and made its log format immutable. As a result there are some nice syslog-reading report utilities for postfix. POSIX' Austin group tried to do something similar by proposing a LOCALE-dependent month field of variable length instead of 3 char English month names. Not aware of anyone who used that. It was never a good idea but the Austin group is small, has alarmingly little concern for backwards compatibility, and does not solicit end-user input. FreeBSD is still my favorite OS in large part because it is not like POSIX' Austin group in those respects. Roger Marquis