From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Dec 2 20:41:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5314E69689 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 20:41:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from cdptpa-cmomta01.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A10327CFC8 for ; Sat, 2 Dec 2017 20:41:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baho-utot@columbus.rr.com) Received: from raspberrypi.bildanet.com ([65.186.81.207]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id LEb2e4fmHtIlFLEb5eTJHK; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 20:41:15 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.143] by raspberrypi.bildanet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1eLEb2-0004dC-EY for freebsd-ports@freebsd.org; Sat, 02 Dec 2017 20:41:12 +0000 Subject: Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth? To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <1512211220.79413.1.camel@yandex.com> <20171202184356.GA980@lonesome.com> From: Baho Utot Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 15:41:07 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171202184356.GA980@lonesome.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfOiGuZ6yE/wKBL2fL5BJfeLkjFl1D8LqDFqZgllvseWXsiKI/79gc9C8zaiZt9CF8Qyjx8yyp0mtBprOp0w9MfqsiKDWXSRGbeNkPIIbj7SkUC54ZY8q jOUOQL38beX17oXu7DY4H5/8PwiuHSDB4QWCZqLz5ZK1eh0/vyfz9qWvaleDmdUn/SP+bjHaqAbiI0+JXU4CwigGXm6mLik/KR8= X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 20:41:22 -0000 On 12/2/2017 1:43 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:53:58AM +0000, Carmel NY wrote: >> Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager", >> "portmaster", "portupgrade" and now "synth", The FreeBSD team has >> done a pretty good job of obfuscating and rendering them impotent. > That's one possible explanation. Or, as Occam's Razor suggests, they > continue to try to modernize the Ports Collection, despite obstacles > (including stale codebases and stubborn maintainers). > > I'll admit some of the transitions have been pretty rough. But when > you go back and look at Ports as of e.g. FreeBSD 4, there have been a > lot of good changes -- including some which were necessary due to sheer > scale. > > If we had stayed with what we had then, the whole thing would have > collapsed by now. > > mcl > _______________________________________________ > What you have noe is not that great either.  When is base going to be packed.....ie something that makes sense and works?