From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 2 21:26:36 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB2C1065834 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 2010 21:26:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from zbeeble@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F218FC1B for ; Thu, 2 Sep 2010 21:26:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyg4 with SMTP id 4so472276gyg.13 for ; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:26:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=HbFCH/6qTml4T2vSo8/fqfz+KPDxl8ztS72+J5F/AjU=; b=fbQcSdIcFNn1O5ItyKyagNgGENMkmUUJ+b97Do8hg0g0aNmKG4tLhpLYxBYjLUZapS ENuffgyn4jxUJp2OTU73YCfupRNfhzFqY323TWBWTPXl/vgiKxh0fACU2U7lmory5o3c +g/xMH3EW/VLx7b51Em3tPX7bK3kVsKjbnhiU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=WEAiq5I9Xh+GBJr4I/UnX7weoZOo9q5iRIIPkmvnnCt5jYcrnCMnZsbOEWLb+WaG+H Zny+4gnMb/JGUMHBiZUsJzgzF/d8qggM0kCrVnthMSm+J3euJDaTQOUKVEiV1kpIyVr7 jMumTLfyJNhC68iVRjNzLoYORIa/uqNTH5AAI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.12.19 with SMTP id 19mr140270ybl.50.1283460965049; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.186.5 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Sep 2010 13:56:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4C7FA50D.4000409@sharescope.co.uk> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 16:56:04 -0400 Message-ID: From: Zaphod Beeblebrox To: Joshua Boyd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Michal , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Extending your zfs pool with multiple devices X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 21:26:36 -0000 [regarding getting more disks in a machine] On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Joshua Boyd wrote: > You need an HP SAS expander card in the new box, and an HBA in your primary > box with external ports to hook it into. > > Then the drives in the other box will show up as local drives on your > primary box. > > You don't even need an operating system on the second box, it just needs > enough hardware in it to supply power to the SAS expander. An inexpensive option are SATA port replicators. Think SATA switch or hub. 1:4 is common and cheap. I have a motherboard with intel ICH10 chipset. It commonly provides 6 ports. This chipset is happy to configure port replicators. Meaning you can put 24 drives on this motherboard. Be warned that many SATA chipsets (even plugin cards) will not work with port replicators... But the ICH10 does and it makes a wonderfully cheap ZFS server. With 1.5T disks, I find that the 4 to 1 multipliers have a small effect on speed. The 4 drives I have on the multipler are saturated at 100% a little bit more than the drives directly connected. Essentially you have 3 gigabit for 4 drives instead of 3 gigabit for 1 drive. The ICH10 motherboard ports can be connected to the back of your system by cables and faceplaces that deliver eSATA connectors. I have my drives in a case that delivers eSATA (or USB). One USB for 4 drives was a dog, but the eSATA conneciton works well.