From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 10 16:17:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB77137B400 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from williams.mc.vanderbilt.edu (williams.mc.Vanderbilt.Edu [160.129.208.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E6C8643E6E for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:17:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drew-list-freebsd-chat@rain3s.net) Received: (qmail 21995 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2002 23:18:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO williams.mc.vanderbilt.edu) (127.0.0.1) by williams.mc.vanderbilt.edu with SMTP; 10 Sep 2002 23:18:17 -0000 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:18:14 -0500 To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <20020910231814.GA21879@drew.rain3s.net> References: <20020910211756.GF4470@drew.rain3s.net> <1D890CC2-C50C-11D6-8708-000393A335A2@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1D890CC2-C50C-11D6-8708-000393A335A2@earthlink.net> From: Drew Raines Mail-Followup-To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.62+ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lawrence Sica wrote: > > On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 05:17 PM, Drew Raines wrote: > > > >Have you actually read the Bible or do you quote it fourth-hand > >for fun? > > Yes I have read it. Many many times. > >8:7, NASB). His point was, just like Romans 3:23, that ``all > >have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.'' They > >deserved a stone in the head just as much or more than the > >woman for their unbelief. > > Romans isn't Jesus' words. ``In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. . . and the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us. . .'' (John 1:1,14) ``No prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God'' (2 Pet. 1:21). ``Paul. . . wrote to you all his letters. . . which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the /rest of the Scriptures/, to their own destruction.'' Romans is God's Word. Jesus is God. Romans is Jesus' words. BTW, I didn't (intend to) claim Jesus wrote Romans. I was merely infering that the point of Romans 3:23 was the same as Jesus' point in John 8:7. > And I read what he said as you have no right to stone her > because you are not pure either. He told ppl he brought a > new law...and that the old laws were no longer applicable. I thought you were saying that Jesus didn't persecute anyone, a comment justified by John 8:7. Also, if you were agreeing with Neal, why did you sarcastically refer to a piece of scripture which supported his point? You really should use punctuation more liberally. We don't mind the extra bandwidth usage. > > him with my salvation. How the flood, however, justifies > > slavery is a mystery. Care to elaborate? > > The son who looked at noah naked? Remember him? Well it was > said his children would serve the rest...I forget his name > off the top of my head. But it was then used that blacks > were descended from the one son, so they could be slaves. OK, so you're referring to what Noah said after Ham entered the tent when Noah was naked. He cursed Canaan, Ham's son, telling Ham he shall be a ``servant of servants to his brothers'' (Genesis 9:25). That doesn't justify slavery as an institution that pleased God, however, which is what you were implying in previous messages. Where does the Bible claim that? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message