From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 13 08:10:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD7629E for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:10:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from quartz@sneakertech.com) Received: from relay02.pair.com (relay02.pair.com [209.68.5.16]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0A5C781 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 71105 invoked by uid 0); 13 Apr 2013 08:10:08 -0000 Received: from 173.48.104.62 (HELO ?10.2.2.1?) (173.48.104.62) by relay02.pair.com with SMTP; 13 Apr 2013 08:10:08 -0000 X-pair-Authenticated: 173.48.104.62 Message-ID: <516912E0.8080708@sneakertech.com> Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 04:10:08 -0400 From: Quartz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A failed drive causes system to hang References: <51672164.1090908@o2.pl> <41A207817BC94167B0C94133EC0DFD68@multiplay.co.uk> <51687881.4080005@o2.pl> <20130412212207.GA81897@icarus.home.lan> <5168864A.2090602@sneakertech.com> <20130412222005.GA82884@icarus.home.lan> In-Reply-To: <20130412222005.GA82884@icarus.home.lan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 08:10:16 -0000 > My point is that the PC-BSD folks need to be made aware of this issue, > so their iXSystems folks can help out if necessary and so on. If > they're left out of the loop, then that's bad for everyone. I was under the impression that pcbsd was entirely an "apps and UI" thing, and that low level stuff like cam or zfs wouldn't be their area of expertise, or even really their responsibility since they're not messing with any of that. I don't think your embedded linux analogy is necessarily relevant, since in those cases the vendor definitely WILL be making low level changes to the base system. Unless you're saying pcbsd does something besides just adding packages to a base install and changing a few config files. ______________________________________ it has a certain smooth-brained appeal