From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Apr 4 8:20:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A8C37B41D for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:20:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id g34GKih23508 for chat@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:20:44 -0800 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 08:20:44 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix Message-ID: <20020404082044.A16114@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <007c01c1db91$63596b70$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from william.a@carrel.org on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:59:17AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:59:17AM -0800, William Carrel wrote: >=20 > A) Microsoft hires mainly smart people >=20 > B) Microsoft develops software in a kit-bash sort of manner without=20 > adequate testing, documentation, and communication between teams >=20 > C) People who write code in a professional manner often quit working for= =20 > Microsoft >=20 > I will add a fact that I think should be hard to argue against: >=20 > D) People who write code in a professional manner are smart. >=20 > Either A is false and B, C, and D are true. Or, B and C are false. =20 > Since I have personally witnessed that C is true and I've heard quite a= =20 > bit of anecdotal evidence of B from current and former Microsoft=20 > employees, I'm led to believe that A is false. In any case there is a=20 > fallacy of inconsistency in your argument. There's a rather significant fallacy in your argument. What you write for D is "if people write code in a professional manner, then they are smart." That's probably generally true. What you implied you said in the last paragraph is "if someone is smart, then they write code in a professional manner" which is absolutly, positivity, beyond any shadow of a doubt, FALSE. I know, I work with code written by scientists. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8rH1cXY6L6fI4GtQRAkMLAJ9bidYkcm+qYItoY1yrA53qRxCcEwCfTAVF AQ8iVvYK0BBZLv9tjIMvH5g= =HVjR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message